Sources
Sources
1. “LenandRuthInvite.”
File: RuthLenDreifussMarriageInvite
File: RuthLenDreifussMarriageInvite
2. “1920 Federal Census,” Manhattan Borough Cherry Street, New York, 20 Jan 1920.
Name written down was SHNIDER They lived on Cherry Street (Mom mentioned this street and another called Monroe. Granma used to pronounce this Monarrro)
Isidore 40 Imm 1906 Tailor (Shop)
Anna 33 Imm 1906
Minnie 13
Eva 11
Janie 10
Joseph 8
Ruth 1 5/12
Name written down was SHNIDER They lived on Cherry Street (Mom mentioned this street and another called Monroe. Granma used to pronounce this Monarrro)
Isidore 40 Imm 1906 Tailor (Shop)
Anna 33 Imm 1906
Minnie 13
Eva 11
Janie 10
Joseph 8
Ruth 1 5/12
3. “1930 Federal Census,” New York City, Pacific Street, April 12, 1930.
Isadore 50 Age at marriage 26 Operator at Ladies Garment Manufacturing Co.
Anna 45 Age at marriage 26?
Minnie 23 Stenographer Music House
Jeanne 20 Clerk Cosmetics
Joseph 18 Clerk ?
Ruth 11
Isadore 50 Age at marriage 26 Operator at Ladies Garment Manufacturing Co.
Anna 45 Age at marriage 26?
Minnie 23 Stenographer Music House
Jeanne 20 Clerk Cosmetics
Joseph 18 Clerk ?
Ruth 11
4. “Personal Genealogy of Joe (Isaac) Dreifuss.”
A genealogy believed to have been written by grandpa by Len Dreifuss’ request. Some part missing.
Isaac Dreifuss - Born January 21st 1882 on Bway & Hooper St Bklyn- Board of Health Flatbush? Ex…..
Mother- Born in Switzerland - Bern. Name Eugenie Bloch. Father Leopold Dreifuss. Born in Germany Baden. Mother came to America 1865 Died Oct 29 1937 Father came to America 1868. Died Dec 14- 1909. Father was 23 yrs old when he was married. Mother was 20 years old when married & died Oct 29th 1937. Father and mother married 1871 at Bushwick ….
A genealogy believed to have been written by grandpa by Len Dreifuss’ request. Some part missing.
Isaac Dreifuss - Born January 21st 1882 on Bway & Hooper St Bklyn- Board of Health Flatbush? Ex…..
Mother- Born in Switzerland - Bern. Name Eugenie Bloch. Father Leopold Dreifuss. Born in Germany Baden. Mother came to America 1865 Died Oct 29 1937 Father came to America 1868. Died Dec 14- 1909. Father was 23 yrs old when he was married. Mother was 20 years old when married & died Oct 29th 1937. Father and mother married 1871 at Bushwick ….
5. “1910 Federal Census,” Brooklyn, NY.
Eugenie Dreifuss
Age in 1910: 57
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Birthplace: Switzerland
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Germany
Mother's Birth Place: Switzerland
Home in 1910: Brooklyn Ward 25, Kings, New York
Marital Status: Widowed
Race: White
Gender: Female
Year of Immigration: 1866
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Eugenie Dreifuss 57
Rose Dreifuss 35
Martha Dreifuss 31
Enma Dreifuss 25
Estelle Dreifuss 22
Isaac D Dreifuss 28
Samuel Dreifuss 24
Walter Dreifuss 18
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Eugenie Dreifuss
Age in 1910: 57
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Birthplace: Switzerland
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Germany
Mother's Birth Place: Switzerland
Home in 1910: Brooklyn Ward 25, Kings, New York
Marital Status: Widowed
Race: White
Gender: Female
Year of Immigration: 1866
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Eugenie Dreifuss 57
Rose Dreifuss 35
Martha Dreifuss 31
Enma Dreifuss 25
Estelle Dreifuss 22
Isaac D Dreifuss 28
Samuel Dreifuss 24
Walter Dreifuss 18
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6. “1930 Federal Census,” Brooklyn, NY.
Name: Joseph Dreyfus
Home in 1930: Brooklyn, Kings, New York
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Birthplace: New York
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Caroline
Race: White
Occupation:
Education:
Military service:
Rent/home value:
Age at first marriage:
Parents' birthplace:
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Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Dreyfus 45
Caroline Dreyfus 42
Rudolp Reuter 22
Beatrice Dreyfus 18
Janette Dreyfus 15
Leonard Dreyfus 13
Name: Joseph Dreyfus
Home in 1930: Brooklyn, Kings, New York
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Birthplace: New York
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Caroline
Race: White
Occupation:
Education:
Military service:
Rent/home value:
Age at first marriage:
Parents' birthplace:
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Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Dreyfus 45
Caroline Dreyfus 42
Rudolp Reuter 22
Beatrice Dreyfus 18
Janette Dreyfus 15
Leonard Dreyfus 13
7. “Einwohnermeldekart = Resident's Registration Card.for Benedict Hess.”
Obtained September 2023 in Fulda Achives
File: Fulda_package10-1_Benedikt Hess
Obtained September 2023 in Fulda Achives
File: Fulda_package10-1_Benedikt Hess
8. Ship Manifest for Fanny and Kaolina Hess
who is Willy Katz?
File: Karolina and Fanny Hess Imm
who is Willy Katz?
File: Karolina and Fanny Hess Imm
9. Ellis Island- http://www.ellisislandrecords.org.
Manifest for Patricia
Sailing from Cuxhaven
Associated Passenger Hess, Karoline
Date of Arrival August 30, 1906
Port of Departure Cuxhaven
Karoline Hess F 29Y from (F)...ulda
Fanny Hess F 24Y from (F)...ulda
Text form only available on this site since the image seems to not be available
Manifest for Patricia
Sailing from Cuxhaven
Associated Passenger Hess, Karoline
Date of Arrival August 30, 1906
Port of Departure Cuxhaven
Karoline Hess F 29Y from (F)...ulda
Fanny Hess F 24Y from (F)...ulda
Text form only available on this site since the image seems to not be available
10. “Max Schechter-in the U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007-.”
Max Schechter
in the U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007
Name:
Max Schechter
Gender:
Male
Birth Date:
22 Mar 1911
Death Date:
29 Oct 1995
Claim Date:
4 Dec 1975
SSN:
079202064
Max Schechter
in the U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007
Name:
Max Schechter
Gender:
Male
Birth Date:
22 Mar 1911
Death Date:
29 Oct 1995
Claim Date:
4 Dec 1975
SSN:
079202064
11. “New Research on The wives and children of Salomon Hess-input from Horst Kemple,” 29 Sept 2024.
I wrote to Horst Kemple with the following inquiry on 31 July 24 and got a response from him on 29 Sept 24.
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 31. Juli 2024 um 23:36 Uhr
Von: "Peter Dreifuss" <padreifuss@me.com>
An: "Horst Kemple" <Horst.Kempel@web.de>
Betreff: Who is Sannchen Hess née Grünebaum
Dear Horst,
Hello again Horst.
I have have attached a death certificate for Josef Hess (the Josef Hess that was born in Hintersteinau on 17 Jun 1848 and died in Fulda on 28 Nov 1918). It states that Josef was the son of Salomon Hess and Sannchen Hess née Grünebaum, but the only wives I know for Solomon Hess are Hanna Stern and possibly a Hanna Kahn. Could you help me determine the marriages of Salomon Hess in Hintersteinau: who were his wives, what were the dates of the weddings, and who were the children born from each wife.
I realize that this is a lot of work and I would be willing to pay you.
All the best,
Pete Dreifuss
Watertown, MA USA
Horst’s response (received 29 Sep 24)
Dear Peter,
I checked my documents. The entry "Grünebaum" is strange, but it could just be a misunderstanding. There is only Hannchen Stern as the second wife of Salomon Hess, both died in 1891, death entry attached. Salomon's first wife was Hannchen Kahn. I have attached Salomon's family list as far as I was able to update the data.
I just noticed that it's been another year since you visited, how time flies.
Best regards
Horst
His 2 attachments are added here in the media section
Files (3): 00017, 00018, x Hess Salomon Stammbaum
I wrote to Horst Kemple with the following inquiry on 31 July 24 and got a response from him on 29 Sept 24.
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 31. Juli 2024 um 23:36 Uhr
Von: "Peter Dreifuss" <padreifuss@me.com>
An: "Horst Kemple" <Horst.Kempel@web.de>
Betreff: Who is Sannchen Hess née Grünebaum
Dear Horst,
Hello again Horst.
I have have attached a death certificate for Josef Hess (the Josef Hess that was born in Hintersteinau on 17 Jun 1848 and died in Fulda on 28 Nov 1918). It states that Josef was the son of Salomon Hess and Sannchen Hess née Grünebaum, but the only wives I know for Solomon Hess are Hanna Stern and possibly a Hanna Kahn. Could you help me determine the marriages of Salomon Hess in Hintersteinau: who were his wives, what were the dates of the weddings, and who were the children born from each wife.
I realize that this is a lot of work and I would be willing to pay you.
All the best,
Pete Dreifuss
Watertown, MA USA
Horst’s response (received 29 Sep 24)
Dear Peter,
I checked my documents. The entry "Grünebaum" is strange, but it could just be a misunderstanding. There is only Hannchen Stern as the second wife of Salomon Hess, both died in 1891, death entry attached. Salomon's first wife was Hannchen Kahn. I have attached Salomon's family list as far as I was able to update the data.
I just noticed that it's been another year since you visited, how time flies.
Best regards
Horst
His 2 attachments are added here in the media section
Files (3): 00017, 00018, x Hess Salomon Stammbaum
12. “Records of the StadtArchiv Fulda obtained by PAD from Archives in September 2023.”
These were obtained as a folder of 10-12 (each several pages) compilations or packages, translated, copied. This is a general source. There is also an Excel spreadsheet I generated with this that I hope to attach in the multimedia file.
i have some of these translated by Rolf, some by Ute and a few by me alone.
These were obtained as a folder of 10-12 (each several pages) compilations or packages, translated, copied. This is a general source. There is also an Excel spreadsheet I generated with this that I hope to attach in the multimedia file.
i have some of these translated by Rolf, some by Ute and a few by me alone.
13. Dear Pete
The document says:
«Birth certificate !
It is hereby certified that Benedikt Hess, who died in Fulda, was born on December 8, 1846 in Hintersteinau, Schluechtern district.
Hintersteinau, July 11th 1930
The oldest [member] of the synagogue Adler» [stamp: Jewish community of Hintersteinau, Schluechtern district]
All the best Rolf
Von: Peter Dreifuss <padreifuss@me.com>
Gesendet: Montag, 23. Oktober 2023 03:21
An: info@tgac-us.com; rolf.n.meyer@bluewin.ch
Betreff: Interpretation of Document
Dear Rolf and Ute,
I’m curious about the origin of this document in my dad’s records. It looks to be a 1930 version of a certified copy of the birth certificate signed by the elder member of the Hintersteinau synagogue, who was an Adler -last name only. I think it was a photocopy sent to my dad years later by his Aunt, Meta Hess Abeles. Meta like my dad was a family historian. What do you think?
Thank you both so much,
Pete
Note: Its very interesting that the Jewish Community of Hintersteinau in 1930 had its own stamp!
File: BenediktBirthCertified
The document says:
«Birth certificate !
It is hereby certified that Benedikt Hess, who died in Fulda, was born on December 8, 1846 in Hintersteinau, Schluechtern district.
Hintersteinau, July 11th 1930
The oldest [member] of the synagogue Adler» [stamp: Jewish community of Hintersteinau, Schluechtern district]
All the best Rolf
Von: Peter Dreifuss <padreifuss@me.com>
Gesendet: Montag, 23. Oktober 2023 03:21
An: info@tgac-us.com; rolf.n.meyer@bluewin.ch
Betreff: Interpretation of Document
Dear Rolf and Ute,
I’m curious about the origin of this document in my dad’s records. It looks to be a 1930 version of a certified copy of the birth certificate signed by the elder member of the Hintersteinau synagogue, who was an Adler -last name only. I think it was a photocopy sent to my dad years later by his Aunt, Meta Hess Abeles. Meta like my dad was a family historian. What do you think?
Thank you both so much,
Pete
Note: Its very interesting that the Jewish Community of Hintersteinau in 1930 had its own stamp!
File: BenediktBirthCertified
14. Benedict Hess-in the Hesse, Germany, Deaths, 1851-1958.
Benedict Hess
in the Hesse, Germany, Deaths, 1851-1958
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Name
Benedict Hess
Death Age
78
Birth Date
abt 1847
Death Date
03 Mär 1925 (3 Mar 1925)
Death Place
Fulda, Hessen (Hesse), Deutschland (Germany)
Civil Registration Office
Fulda
Certificate Number
80
File: BenedictHessDeath
Benedict Hess
in the Hesse, Germany, Deaths, 1851-1958
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Name
Benedict Hess
Death Age
78
Birth Date
abt 1847
Death Date
03 Mär 1925 (3 Mar 1925)
Death Place
Fulda, Hessen (Hesse), Deutschland (Germany)
Civil Registration Office
Fulda
Certificate Number
80
File: BenedictHessDeath
16. The following email was received from DWSAnes on April 18,1999. Dates on the pages in Reunion came from LLD and do not come from the cemetery records. They differ for Rebekka (2 days) and for Samuel (months apart).
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Dear Peter' I have reviewed the Fulda Cemetery list. I found no Oltensasser or Newmark's. I did find three Baum's, a lot of Nussbau's, Birnbaum's etc.
Baum's--Grave 180, Row 15--Samuel 1 Jyar 25 04 1925
181, Row 16--Ziwah 15 Siwan 07 06 1925
198, Row 17-- Moses 3 Thanus 15 06 1926
Now as for the Hess' and Stern's:
Row 2 Grave 14 Monika Stern 1908
Grave 20 Hess 1909
Row 3 Grave 32 Betty Hess 1910
Row 4 Grave 47 Stern (Frau) 3 Tischre 14 09 1912
Row 5 Grave 53 Moses Stern 25 Nissan 02 05 1913
Row 6 Grave 63 Samuel Hess 12 Kislew 19 11 1915
Grave 68 Stern, Rese 20 Schwat 25 03 1916
Grave 20 Stern, Regine 10 Tischre 26 09 1917
Row 8 Grave 93 Hess, Rebekka 9 Siwan 20 05 1918
Row 9 Grave 99 Hess Josef 24 Kislew 16 12 1919
Row 10 Grave 115 Hess, Zwieben Abraham 30 Tishra 27 11 1920
Row 11 Grave 121 Frau Dr. Stern 10 Thamus 26 06 1920
Grave 125, Stern Bertha 1 Schwath 10 01 1921
Row 12 Grave 143 Stern Hermann San. Rat 2 Siwan 17 05 1923
Row 14 Grave 157 Stern Naftali 24 Av 24 08 1924
Grave 159 Stern Moses 8 Tischre 18 09 1923
Grave 165 Hess Johanna 1925
Row 15 Grave 173 Stern, Dina 11 Jyar 24 05 1924
Grave 174 Stern Adelheid 20 Jyar 24 05 1924
Grave 177 Hess Benedikt 8 Adar 01 03 1925
Row 16 Grave 185 Stern Max 23 Schwat 17 02 1925
Row 17 Grave 198 Baum Moses 3 Thanus 15 06 1926
Row 19 Grave 224 Stern Sophie 1 Thamus 19 04 1928
Grave 228 Stern Malchen 1928
Row 21 Grave 244 Stern Emanuel 1 Schwat 1930
Grave 245 Stern, Lina 25 Cheschwan 1934
Row 27 Grave 322 Hess, Jenny 4 Adar 19 02 1937
Row 29 Grave 337 Hess Siegmund 15 03 1938
Row 31 Grave 365 Stern Maria (Mirjam) 17 Nissan 31 03 1945
I hope that is the information you are looking for. The families in this area that we are concerned with are GOLDSCHMIDT and WEINBERG
Donald W. Stein, Tucson, AZ
___________________
___________________
Dear Peter' I have reviewed the Fulda Cemetery list. I found no Oltensasser or Newmark's. I did find three Baum's, a lot of Nussbau's, Birnbaum's etc.
Baum's--Grave 180, Row 15--Samuel 1 Jyar 25 04 1925
181, Row 16--Ziwah 15 Siwan 07 06 1925
198, Row 17-- Moses 3 Thanus 15 06 1926
Now as for the Hess' and Stern's:
Row 2 Grave 14 Monika Stern 1908
Grave 20 Hess 1909
Row 3 Grave 32 Betty Hess 1910
Row 4 Grave 47 Stern (Frau) 3 Tischre 14 09 1912
Row 5 Grave 53 Moses Stern 25 Nissan 02 05 1913
Row 6 Grave 63 Samuel Hess 12 Kislew 19 11 1915
Grave 68 Stern, Rese 20 Schwat 25 03 1916
Grave 20 Stern, Regine 10 Tischre 26 09 1917
Row 8 Grave 93 Hess, Rebekka 9 Siwan 20 05 1918
Row 9 Grave 99 Hess Josef 24 Kislew 16 12 1919
Row 10 Grave 115 Hess, Zwieben Abraham 30 Tishra 27 11 1920
Row 11 Grave 121 Frau Dr. Stern 10 Thamus 26 06 1920
Grave 125, Stern Bertha 1 Schwath 10 01 1921
Row 12 Grave 143 Stern Hermann San. Rat 2 Siwan 17 05 1923
Row 14 Grave 157 Stern Naftali 24 Av 24 08 1924
Grave 159 Stern Moses 8 Tischre 18 09 1923
Grave 165 Hess Johanna 1925
Row 15 Grave 173 Stern, Dina 11 Jyar 24 05 1924
Grave 174 Stern Adelheid 20 Jyar 24 05 1924
Grave 177 Hess Benedikt 8 Adar 01 03 1925
Row 16 Grave 185 Stern Max 23 Schwat 17 02 1925
Row 17 Grave 198 Baum Moses 3 Thanus 15 06 1926
Row 19 Grave 224 Stern Sophie 1 Thamus 19 04 1928
Grave 228 Stern Malchen 1928
Row 21 Grave 244 Stern Emanuel 1 Schwat 1930
Grave 245 Stern, Lina 25 Cheschwan 1934
Row 27 Grave 322 Hess, Jenny 4 Adar 19 02 1937
Row 29 Grave 337 Hess Siegmund 15 03 1938
Row 31 Grave 365 Stern Maria (Mirjam) 17 Nissan 31 03 1945
I hope that is the information you are looking for. The families in this area that we are concerned with are GOLDSCHMIDT and WEINBERG
Donald W. Stein, Tucson, AZ
___________________
17. Die Judengemeinde von Altdorf) lists this birthday as 28.10.1850. Other sources list it as 31 Oct.
However, visit to Mount Carmel Cemetery on 5 April 1999 by Pete, Shelley and Becky Dreifuss found his birthdate to be 29 Oct 1850.
However, visit to Mount Carmel Cemetery on 5 April 1999 by Pete, Shelley and Becky Dreifuss found his birthdate to be 29 Oct 1850.
18. Data obtained by me on Sunday July 4 1999 on visit to Hanna Meyer-Moses' home. She obtained it from:
Stadtarchiv und Dokumentationsdienst
Erlacherhof, Junkerngasse 47
Postfach, 3000 Bern 8
Telefon 031 321 62 12
via letter dated 14 March 1995. This information was obtained via a request from LLD to Hanna. Hanna never sent it thinking it wrong as dates were not consistent with LLD. This letter in records.
Earlier data from LLD gave birthday as 29 Apr 1853 but Stadtarchiv data gives just 1849, so I assume she made herself younger than Leopold and actual month and day are 29 April.
Other data from Barry Finkel from census records. Rosa's Bday April 1875 from 1900 census. Dad D had it 1874. 1900 census lists Eugenia's native country as Switzerland, her father's country as Germany and her mother's country as Switzerland. It also lists Switzerland as the native country of the mother (Eugenia) of Isaac, Emma, etc. It gives the date of Eugenia's immigration as 1866 while Leopold's immigration was 1868.
The 1880 census lists Eugenia's native country as Baden as well as that of her parents. It also lists her as "Eugenie". In 1880 their address was 664 Broadway, Brooklyn NY Kings County
A trip to Mount Carmel Cemetery on 5 April 1999 by Pete, Shelley and Becky Dreifuss gave the following:
LEOPOLD
b in Altdorf, Baden Oct 29, 1850
d 14 Dec 1909
EUGENIE
b in Berne Switzerland April 29, 1853
d Oct 29, 1937
File: EugenieBlochBernGenealogy
Stadtarchiv und Dokumentationsdienst
Erlacherhof, Junkerngasse 47
Postfach, 3000 Bern 8
Telefon 031 321 62 12
via letter dated 14 March 1995. This information was obtained via a request from LLD to Hanna. Hanna never sent it thinking it wrong as dates were not consistent with LLD. This letter in records.
Earlier data from LLD gave birthday as 29 Apr 1853 but Stadtarchiv data gives just 1849, so I assume she made herself younger than Leopold and actual month and day are 29 April.
Other data from Barry Finkel from census records. Rosa's Bday April 1875 from 1900 census. Dad D had it 1874. 1900 census lists Eugenia's native country as Switzerland, her father's country as Germany and her mother's country as Switzerland. It also lists Switzerland as the native country of the mother (Eugenia) of Isaac, Emma, etc. It gives the date of Eugenia's immigration as 1866 while Leopold's immigration was 1868.
The 1880 census lists Eugenia's native country as Baden as well as that of her parents. It also lists her as "Eugenie". In 1880 their address was 664 Broadway, Brooklyn NY Kings County
A trip to Mount Carmel Cemetery on 5 April 1999 by Pete, Shelley and Becky Dreifuss gave the following:
LEOPOLD
b in Altdorf, Baden Oct 29, 1850
d 14 Dec 1909
EUGENIE
b in Berne Switzerland April 29, 1853
d Oct 29, 1937
File: EugenieBlochBernGenealogy
19. “Research by Ute Mehlhorn.”
DREIFUSS - BLOCH Genealogy / TGAC / Report / 19 April 2023 (with 12 attachments that are in multimedia)
NEW “positive” information / NEW records. NEW “negative” information (method of elimination).
Selected genealogical symbols:
* Birth / (*) Born out-of-wedlock / ~ Baptism / o Engagement (proclamation of marriage) / ∞
Marriage / † Death / o-o Illegitimate union / # Burial / NN = no name [unknown]
A. DREIFUSS / BERNHEIMER residences in Altdorf
Action: Contact to Robert Krais in January + March 2023 (email)
Result: The son Roman Krais has responded to my email(s). Sadly, Robert Krais has suddenly passed away on January 29th, 2023. Roman Krais himself is not involved in genealogy. He is dealing with Robert Krais’ legacy though. I [Ute-TGAC] have asked him to let me know in case he comes across documents related to the DREIFUSS family…
For the September trip preparations, I will contact the Altdorf non-profit association
“Ehemalige Synagoge – Heute Kunsthalle Altdorf e.V.”
Action: Search for collections at the Central Land Register Archive Kornwestheim of the Baden- Württemberg State Archive in January 2023
Result: For land register records before 1900 – Reference to the Ortenaukreis County Archive [Kreisarchiv des Ortenaukreises] for Altdorf, Ettenheim district.
Action: Contact the Ortenaukreis County Archive in mid-April 2023 (email) Result: Reply / Result - PENDING
B. Fate of Isaak DREIFUSS
Chronological order of verified events starting with the death of Isaak DREIFUSS’ wife Rosa in 1864:
Date
Event & Notes
16 Apr 1864
Death of Isaak’s 2nd wife Rosa neé BERNHEIMER in Altdorf [age 42 ½]
Source: Altdorf civil registry records / State Archive Freiburg (for Baden)
05 Jun 1864
Death of Isaak’s father-in-law Salomon BERNHEIMER in Altdorf
Source: Altdorf civil registry records
15 Jun 1864
Death of Isaak’s son Simon [age 1] in Altdorf
Source: Altdorf civil registry records
15 Jun 1864
Marriage of Isaak’s son Abraham DREIFUSS in Altdorf Wife: Augusta HIRSCH
Source: Altdorf civil registry records
04 Feb 1865
Summons for Isaak DREIFUSS at Mahlberg court
Regarding the division of the estate of † Salomon BERNHEIMER
Source: Mahlberg court record [Myrah Adams research]
17 Jul 1866
Regarding the bequest of Salomon BERNHEIMER [† 05 Jun 1864]:
Guardians assigned for the children of Isaak DREIFUSS
Maier DREIFUSS & Marx MAIER [ref. to record Nr. 4252 / 17 Jul 1866] Maier DREIFUSS = half-nephew of Isaak * 1820 via half-brother Aron
Abraham DREIFUSS (deputy) = probably Isaak’s oldest son * 1841
Samuel DREIFUSS (supervisor) = probably Isaak’s brother * 1806
Source: Ettenheim district court [record Nr. 4539 / 31 Jul 1866]
22 Apr 1868
Marriage of daughter Dusette DREIFUSS in Baden-Baden Husband: Louis Lazarus GUTMANN
Note: “…legitimate daughter of the merchant in Altdorf, Isaac DREIFUSS, and
the deceased Sarah SCHWEIZER…” [indicating Isaak was alive in April 1868]
Source: Baden-Baden civil registry records
1868
Emigration of Isaak’s son Leopold to USA
Source: DREIFUSS ancestors book [Peter & Jeff Dreifuss / 2020]
1871
Emigration of Isaak’s daughter Emma to USA
Source: Baden-Württemberg State Archive Karlsruhe
10 May 1871
Death of Isaak’s daughter Sophie DREIFUSS in Altdorf
Source: OSB Altdorf
1874
Emigration of Isaak’s son Aaron to USA
Source: DREIFUSS ancestors book [Peter & Jeff Dreifuss / 2020]
1875
Emigration of Isaak’s son Heinrich “Henry” to USA
Source: Baden-Württemberg State Archive Karlsruhe
24 Jun 1877
Death of Isaak’s brother Samuel DREIFUSS in Altdorf
Assigned in 1866 as supervisor for guardians for Isaak’s children
Source: OSB Altdorf
1880 or 1882
Emigration of Isaak’s daughter Rosa to USA
Source: DREIFUSS ancestors book [Peter & Jeff Dreifuss / 2020]
In July 1866, 7 children of Isaak DREIFUSS were still alive and had to be taken care of (age 5 – 26): Children out of 1st marriage of Isaak DREIFUSS with Sara SCHWEIZER († 17 Dec 1847):
Dusette [Dekla]: * 29 Apr 1839 [age 26] / ∞ 22 Apr 1868 in Baden-Baden
Abraham: * 16 May 1841 [age 25] / ∞ 15 Jun 1864 in Altdorf
- Sophie [Sofia]: * 10 Jun 1846 [age 20] / † 10 May 1871 [age 24]
Children out of 2nd marriage of Isaak DREIFUSS with Rosa BERNHEIMER († 16 Apr 1864):
Leopold: * 28 Oct 1850 [age 15] / to USA 1868 [arrival in New York on 28 Sep 1868]
- Emma: * 26 Dec 1852 [age 13] / to USA 1871
Aaron: * 22 May 1857 [age 9] / to USA 1874
Heinrich: * 29 Jan 1859 [age 7] / to USA 1875
- Rosa: * 05 Apr 1861 [age 5] / to USA 1880 or 1882
When Isaak DREIFUSS became a widower on 16 Apr 1864, his own parents and his mother-in-law were already dead. His father-in-law Salomon BERNHEIMER was a widower himself with children on his own – and he died shortly afterwards on 05 Jun 1864. So, neither his parents nor his parents- in-law could have taken care of Isaak DREIFUSS’ 7 children between June 1864 and July 1866 when guardians were assigned. According to the 1868 marriage record for his daughter Dusette, Isaak DREIFUSS was still alive and a merchant in Altdorf in April 1868 (provided that these information are correct). We know that Isaak DREIFUSS did not die in Altdorf because there is no such entry in the OSB Altdorf.
Action: Inquiry at Kenzingen civil registry office [Standesamt] on 19 Nov 2022 (email) for † 1904 record Abraham DREIFUSS
Result: 1904 death record for Abraham DREIFUSS († 22 Sep 1904 in Kenzingen): Husband of Augusta HIRSCH / “Son of the deceased married couple Isack DREIFUSS, merchant – The name of the wife could not be established – Both have last resided in Altdorf.” The death was reported by the merchant Ludwig DREIFUSS (probably Abraham’s son).
The 1904 death record for Abraham DREIFUSS did not reveal any helpful, specific or new information about his father Isaak DREIFUSS.
Reply by
Action: Search Baden-Baden (Baden) vital records for 1868 marriage DREIFUSS - HIRSCH Result: ∞ 22 Apr 1868 in Baden-Baden: Louis Lazarus GUTMANN, master tailor (* 20 Jul 1841
in Gernsbach as the son of Marx GUTMANN and Zerlina [Sophie] HORNBURGER) and Dusette DREIFUSS (* 29 Aug 1839 in Altdorf as the daughter of Isaac DREIFUSS, merchant in Altdorf, and the deceased Sarah SCHWEIZER). Proclamations took place in the Synagoges of Gernsbach (Murgtal), Altdorf and Kippenheim.
Action: Inquiry at Ettingen civil registry office [Standesamt] on 19 Nov 2022 (email) for † 1877 record Samuel DREIFUSS and for † 1871 record Sophie DREIFUSS
Result: There is no 1877 death record in Altdorf for Samuel DREIFUSS.
1871 death record for Sophie DREIFUSS († 10 May 1871 in Altdorf): 24 years / Altdorf / “Legitimate daughter of Isak DREIFUS, merchant, and Sara SCHWEIZER - Both residing in Altdorf.” The death was reported by a relative Isak GÜNDELFINGER. We know that Sara SCHWEIZER has died 1847 – Therefore the statement for Sophie’s parents “both residing In Altdorf” is not correct and therefore we can’t assume based on this record that Isaak DREIFUSS was still living in Altdorf in 1871. Also, it was not her father Isaak DREIFUSS who had reported Sophie’s death to the authorities…
The 1871 death record for Sophie DREIFUSS did not reveal any helpful, specific or new (reliable) information about her father Isaak DREIFUSS.
Action: Inquiry to Freiburg State Archive [Staatsarchiv] on 21 Nov 2022 (email) for guardianship / emigration records for Isaak DREIFUSS’ children
[Quote Myrah Adams 2007: “…As the focus of my research, when I was at Friburg, was not on the Dreifuss family, I am almost sure that there are even more documents…”]
Result: No emigration records at the Freiburg State Archive for DREIFUSS For emigration registers: Reference to Karlsruhe State Archive
Death notice for Rosa DREIFUSS née BERNHEIMER († 16 Apr 1864 in Altdorf) including
Information about Isaak DREIFUSS’ profession: Nothändler [Geldhändler = money jobber]
Information about the two marriages of Isaak DREIFUSS:
1st ∞ 06 Jun 1838 with Sara SCHWEIZER
2nd ∞ 19 Mar 1848 with Rosa BERNHEIMER
Information about the children of Isaak DREIFUSS [still alive on 16 Apr 1864 / all single]: Out of 1st marriage: Dekla (* 29 Apr 1839) = Dusette
Abraham (* 16 May 1841)
Sofia (* 10 Jun 1846) Out of 2nd marriage: Leopold (* 28 Oct 1850)
Emma (* 26 Dec 1852)
Simon (* 04 May 1855)
Aron (* 22 May 1857)
Heinrich (* 29 Jan 1859)
Rosa (* 05 Apr 1861)
Appointed as guardians for minor heirs: Samuel DREIFUSS and Emanuel DREIFUSS.
Marriage contract: YES / Testament: NO
Assets: about 50 fl. [Rhenish guilder] – This money belonged to the 3 children of the 1st marriage (see above) / “Since there are no other assets (or property), no notary needs to be assigned” / “Due to notorious poverty, a ratification procedure in court is not possible.” / “The very little chattel consists of 3 old beds, the merest clothes and
some linen which belongs to the children of the 1st marriage. Due to notorious
poverty it is not possible to divide those possessions up.”
Marriage contract (17 Mar 1848) was concluded in the presence and with the involvement of the bride’s father Salomon BERNHEIMER (local merchant) / Witnesses: Isak BERNHEIMER and Ismel SCHNURMANN (both local merchants) / The bride acknowledges the assets bequeathed by the deceased 1st wife of the groom /
The father of the bride gave her 400 fl. [Rhenish guilder] in cash and chattel worth 233 guilder and 41kreutzer.
No other relevant records for Isaak DREIFUSS at the Staatsarchiv Freiburg Reply by Mr. Rees [Staatsarchiv Freiburg]
Action: Inquiry to Karlsruhe State Archive [Generallandesarchiv] in February 2023 (email)
for emigration records for Isaak DREIFUSS’ children (particularly for Emma and Heinrich)
Result: Register for Emigration and Immigration (Baden):
Entry for Emma DREIFUSS (Emigration 1871 / Altdorf / age 19 / No profession stated) Entry for Heinris DREYFUSS (Emigration 1875 / Altdorf / age 16 / Baker)
These records are only name lists with very few information, meaning these documents do not provide any information about their father Isaak DREIFUSS. More detailed records such as “request for emigration permit” do not exist anymore (for DREIFUSS).
Reply by Manfred Hennhöfer [Generallandesarchiv Karlsruhe]
It becomes apparent that Isaak DREIFUSS was not in the position to provide well for his family because in April 1864 there was nothing left of his 2nd wife Rosa née BERNHEIMER’s dowry (see above) and apparently also very little of his 1st wife Sara SCHWEIZER’s dowry. Also, when Rosa née BERNHEIMER died on 16 Apr 1864, immediately two guardians were assigned for the minor children – Meaning that Isaak DREIFUSS as the father of these children was probably not considered to be fit to take care of the children after his wife’s death. It can be assumed that Isaak DREIFUSS has left Altdorf at some point – But his whereabouts later in life (and his place of death) remain unknown.
C. BLOCH – SOMMER family
Info about family of Lazarus BLOCH from Müllheim (Baden) & Judith WEIL provided by Julianne Geike (Emmendingen archive / Nov 2020) with Samuel BLOCH * ca. 1804 (in Emmendingen).
Info in Lens book: Samuel BLOCH * 07 Jan 1807 in Emmendingen or Mulhouse (Haut-Rhin)
/ parents: Isaac BLOCH & Beyle MOSEN (no further information).
Info provided by Bern Stadtarchiv (1995): Samuel BLOCH * 1808 (from Emmendingen) and Jeanette SOMMER * 1818 in Sievenz (probably Sierenz / Sierentz) / Children of Samuel BLOCH & Jeanette SOMMER: Ida BLOCH (* 20 Nov 1838 / † 08 Jan 1860), Rosale BLOCH (* 1840), Leopold BLOCH (* 1843), Eduard BLOCH (* 29 Apr 1847), Eugenie BLOCH (* 1849).
Tombstone for Eugenie DREIFUSS neé BLOCH † 29 Oct 1937 in New York, USA: * 29 Apr 1853 in Bern, Switzerland.
These are conflicting information in regard to Samuel BLOCH’s birth date to be either ca. 1804 or 1807 or ca. 1808! There were several BLOCH families in Emmendingen! See note from Julianne Geike at the Emmendingen town archive (Stadtarchiv Emmendingen) – See below
In order to verify Samuel BLOCH’s birth date / pace of birth, it is crucial to search for his birth record and for the 1837 marriage record for Samuel BLOCH and Jeanette SOMMER because in such a marriage record usually the names of the parents for both, the groom and the bride (and often the birth places / birth dates) are being stated. Possible 1837 wedding locations: Bern (Switzerland) / Emmendingen (Baden) / Sierentz (Haut-Rhin) / Mulhouse (Haut-Rhin). It is also crucial to search for the * 1849 (1853) record for the daughter Eugenie BLOCH, probably in Bern, Switzerland, in order to verify where / when she was born as the daughter of Samuel BLOCH & Jeanette SOMMER.
Information from the 1995 letter from the Stadtarchiv Bern [Bern City Archive]: “Samuel BLOCH (called Wemser?), born 1808, from Emmendingen (Baden), horse trader, married 1837 to Jeanette SOMMER, born 1818, from Sivenz (= Sierenz / Sierentz) / Children: Ida BLOCH (* 20 Nov 1838 / † 08 Jan 1860 [??? difficult to decipher], Rosale BLOCH (* 1840), Leopold BLOCH (* 1843), Eduard BLOCH (* 29 Apr 1847) and Eugenie BLOCH (* 1849) / 1853 move to Thun, then return to Bern / Later expelled / Aug 1854 in Yverdon” [Sources: Alien residents index 1845 – 1850 / Register of Jews 1840 – 1854: Resident sheet of 25 Jan 1837, renewed on 11 Apr [???] 1853].
Action: Search Emmendingen, Baden, civil registry records (1811 – 1869) Result: No ∞ record found 1833 – 1842 in Emmendingen for BLOCH – SOMMER
No * records found 1837 – 1845 in Emmendingen for children of BLOCH – SOMMER Record found in the 1841 birth records for the Emmendingen Jewish community about the attestation on 29 Nov 1841 in Bern for two children of Samuel BLOCH & Jeanette SOMMER: Ida BLOCH (* 20 Nov 1838 in Bern) / Rosalie BLOCH (* 27 Nov 1840 in Bern) / attested by the Bern state clerk Gottlieb Rud. Rufenacht and two members of the Jewish community Bern: Theodor Levi and Isaac Picard (or Picert – difficult to read). In late 1841, Samuel
BLOCH was a horse trader in Bern, Switzerland. The 1841 entry in the Emmendingen birth Register is only an “attestation”, meaning these two children Ida BLOCH and Rosalie BLOCH were not born in Emmendingen – otherwise there would be actual individual birth entries. My [Ute-TGAC] interpretation is that Samuel BLOCH might have wanted to secure the so- called “right of residence” [Heimatrecht] in Emmendingen for both his daughters. Without any kind of social security / health care / pension system in the early / mid-1880s, the only “security” people had was this “right of residence” in a particular community which was acquired by birth (or marriage). The official proof to be entitled was the entry in the official birth (or marriage) records. According to the information provided by the Canton Bern State Archive (see below), Jews were not entitled for any kind of such a “right of residence” in Bern, Switzerland, at that time. I [Ute-TGAC] think that Samuel BLOCH wanted to make sure that his daughters got the “right of residence” in his home Emmendingen, Baden. The “Heimatrecht” included the community’s “Duty of Care” benefits for those residents who were poor and/or did not have a family to provide for them. Maybe it was a precaution in case the daughters did not get married? With this 1841 attestation entry in the Emmedingen vital records, Ida and Rosalie had acquired the “right of residence” in Emmendingen and this would have allowed them to move to and live in Emmendingen.
Without such a “right of residence”, a community had the right to refuse a settlement and to send “foreigners” away. There might have been another reason for this 1841 entry in the Emmendingen vital records – But this “Heimatrecht” situation could have been one.
Random finding: ∞ 26 Dec 1814 in Emmendingen: Elias BLOCH (age 29 / father: Lazer BLOCH / mother: Judith WEIL) and Eva SOMMER (age 18 / father: Moses Levi SOMMER / Mother: Rosina ULMANN) – Elias BLOCH (* ca. 1785) is an older brother of Samuel BLOCH.
Action: Contact Julianne Geike (Stadtarchiv) for Emmendingen vital records on 21Nov 2022 for Samuel BLOCH * 1807 / 1808 or * 1804 (vital records before 1811 are NOT online)
Result: The ca. 1804 birth year for Samuel BLOCH in the family sheet Mrs. Geike had sent to Mr. Dreifuss is an estimation based on alternative sources [NOT primary vital records] = Here an 1830 inheritance record for Lazarus BLOCH mentioning an adult son Samuel BLOCH (21 years or older). Mrs. Geike has stated now that she can’t reconstruct how a
“ca. 1804” birth year was calculated for Samuel BLOCH (son of Lazarus BLOCH). His brother Model was presumably born 1804 (no twin mentioned). The birth year of another brother Salomon was calculated “1807/1808” – Therefore: It is most likely that Samuel BLOCH was born ca. 1805 – 1807. In order to determine Samuel BLOCH’s correct birth date, we need either his Emmendigen birth record or the 1837 marriage record BLOCH / SOMMER.
No death record in Emmendingen (Baden) for a member of the BLOCH / SOMMER family. Confirmation by Julianne Geike: No BLOCH / SOMMER marriage in Emmendingen ca. 1837. For vital records before 1811 – Reference to the Baden State Archive Freiburg
Action: Contact Baden-Württemberg State Archive Freiburg in March 2023 (email) For vital records before 1811 for Emmendingen (Jewish community)
Result: Reference to the Deutsche Zentralstelle für Genealogie [Staatsarchiv Leipzig] Reply by Mr. Rees [Staatsarchiv Freiburg]
Action: Contact Deutsche Zentralstelle für Genealogie Leipzig] in March 2023 (email) For vital records before 1811 for Emmendingen (Jewish community)
Result: No vital records exist for Emmendingen before 1811 Reply by Dolores Herrmann [Staatsarchiv Leipzig]
Action: Contact Stadtarchiv Bern (through website) on 21 Nov 2022 (online contact form)
For vital records (∞ 1837 BLOCH – SOMMER / * 1849 or 1853 Eugenie BLOCH)
Result: No civil registry records stored at the Stadtarchiv Bern – Reference to the Staatsarchiv des Kantons Bern and/or the Jüdische Gemeinde Bern [Jewish community Bern].
Reply by Mr. Thomet [Stadtarchiv Bern]
You [Pete] have also contacted the Stadtarchiv Bern and received a reply from Mr. Camenzind – mostly verifying these information you had received in the 1995 letter – and confirming the reference to Yverdon, Switzerland, where the BLOCH family had moved to in 1854.
NEW information retrieved from the record copies which were not included in the 1995 letter:
The move of the BLOCH family to Yverdon in 1854 was reported to the Bern authorities by Eduard SOMMER / Legitimation certificate was sent to Eduard SOMMER on August 5th, 1854. Possible action: Contact Mr. Camenzind [Stadtarchiv Bern] for a record for Eduard SOMMER in the same source: SAB_1278_0_2 Kontrolle über die Juden / SAB_1278_1_2 Fremden- Einwohnerregister Bern.
Places of residence for BLOCH family in Bern (Jewish Quarter): Apartments no. 82 (1837) / no. 122 (1849), no. 81 ??? (1850) and no. 22 (1853)
Possible action: Contact Mr. Camenzind [Stadtarchiv Bern] for maps of the Jewish Quarter in order to find out where these apartments were located back then.
On the bottom of the first page for the BLOCH family, there is a Judith BLOCH mentioned as a maid / servant [Magd / Dienstbote]. She was born 1830, came to Bern 1849 and went back to Emmendingen in 1850. She has lived in apartment no. 122 in Bern (Jewish quarter) together with Samuel BLOCH’s family. Based on “The Family of Lazarus BLOCH” sheet, Judith BLOCH (* 1830 in Emmendingen) was a niece of Samuel BLOCH as a daughter of his oldest brother Elias BLOCH (* ca. 1786) and Eva SOMMER (* ca. 1793). Judith BLOCH has then married Alexander WEIL (see their children * 1857 – 1865).
Action: Contact the Jüdische Gemeinde Bern [Jewish Community Bern] on 21 Nov 2022 (email)
For vital records (∞ 1837 BLOCH – SOMMER / * 1849 or 1853 Eugenie BLOCH)
Result: No records in the collections of the Jüdische Gemeinde Bern for BLOCH family – Reference to the Staatsarchiv des Kantons Bern [Canton Bern State Archive] Reply by Fabienne Messerli [Jüdische Gemeinde Bern]
Action: Contact Dr. Barbara Studer at the Staatsarchiv des Kantons Bern in March 2023 (email) for BLOCH – SOMMER family 1837 – 1853 in Bern, Switzerland
Result: No records in the collections of the Staatsarchiv des Kantons Bern for BLOCH
Until the second half of the 1800s, the Jewish people in Bern, Switzerland, were not at all coequal to other residents there. Also, the 1848 Swiss Federal Constitution [Bundesverfassung] excluded Jews from the then applied so-called “right of free movement” [Freizügikeit], meaning Jews were not allowed to freely choose their place of residence in Switzerland. Compared to other Cantons, Bern was one of the most
progressive Swiss cantons in regard to the equality of the Jewish population: “Already” in 1846, the Bern government granted Jews the right of settlement and freedom of trade. That was about one generation earlier than the rest of Switzerland! It was not before 1883 that a Synagoge was erected in Bern. Switzerland did not keep civil registry records before 1876. So: There are no civil registry vital records before 1876 in Bern, Switzerland. Dr. Barbara Studer assumes that Samuel BLOCH and Jeanette SOMMER did not get married in Bern about 1837 – There was no Jewish community in Bern and a civil marriage was not possible in Bern back then. Dr. Barbara Studer has checked the church records of Christian parishes in the city of Bern: There is no Christian marriage recorded for Samuel BLOCH and Jeanette SOMMER in the city of Bern, Switzerland.
Dr. Studer assumes that they got married in Lengnau or Endingen in the Aargau Canton, or that they got married at a place in the Alsace, France, or in Baden where they had rather large Jewish communities and Synagoges.
The only source for Jews in Bern in the early / mid-1800s are the “Control of the Jews”
[Kontrolle über die Juden] / records about registered Jews (see Stadtarchiv Bern above).
Action: Search Mulhouse (Haut-Rhin) vital records (* 1804 / * 1807 – 1808) for BLOCH (online) Result: * 09 Jan 1804 Samuel BLOCH (father: Isaak BLOCH / mother: Beyle MOISEN)
* 21 Apr 1807 Salomon BLOCH (father: Isaak BLOCH / mother: Beyle MOISEN) No * record for Samuel BLOCH ca. 1807/1808 in Mulhouse (Haut-Rhin)
No ∞ record found 1836 – 1838 in Mulhouse (Haut-Rhin) for BLOCH – SOMMER
Based on other sources I [Ute-TGAC] think it is safe to assume that Samuel BLOCH was born 1807/1808 in Emmendingen, Baden, as the son of Lazarus BLOCH and Judith WEIL.
Action: Search Sierentz / Hegenheim / Hagenthal (Haut-Rhin, Alsace) civil registry records for vital records for Jeanette SOMMER (and her parents)
Result: No ∞ record found 1832 – 1842 in Sierentz (Haut-Rhin) for BLOCH – SOMMER No * record found 1808 – 1825 in Sierentz (Haut-Rhin) for Jeanette SOMMER
The only two SOMMER children born in Sierentz in this time frame were Rosine SOMMER (* 1808) and Moyser SOMMER (* 1821), both with the father Guillaume [Wilhelm] SOMMER. There were 5 men with the surname SOMMER who got married in Sierentz 1808 – 1812:
∞ 1808 Guillaume SOMMER & Sibille HAAS
∞ 1810 Francois SOMMER & Eva NORDEMANN (from Hegenheim, Haut-Rhin)
∞ 1810 Lazare SOMMER & Carolina BLOCH (from Mullenheim – maybe Müllheim, Baden)
∞ 1812 Samuel SOMMER & Madelene NORDMANN (from Bern, Switzerland)
∞ 1812 Jaques SOMMER & Jeanette BUMSEL (from Ober Hagenthal, Haut-Rhin) No * record found 1815 – 1826 in Hegenheim (Haut-Rhin) for Jeanette SOMMER
No * record found 1815 – 1826 in Hagenthal le Bas (Haut-Rhin) for Jeanette SOMMER No * record found 1815 – 1826 in Müllheim (Baden) for Jeanette SOMMER
Random Finding: * 12 Dec 1818 in Müllheim (Baden): Hanna SOMMER (father: Lazarus SOMMER / mother: Katharina BLOCH / witnesses: Moses BLOCH and Jacob BLOCH)
Action: Contact A.S.I.J.A. (Le Judaisme d’Alsace et de Lorraine) on 21 Nov 2022 (email)
for Jeanette SOMMER * 1818 in Sierentz ??? / plus online research on their website Result: Reference to “GenAmi – Association de la genealogie juive” (forum & online databases)
No response / No lead for Jeanette SOMMER (* 1818) in Sierentz from GenAmi community No findings / No lead for Jeanette SOMMER (* 1818) in Sierentz in GenAmi online databases
Random finding: * 04 Feb 1824 in Sierentz: Ludwig SOMMER (∞ to Marie BLOCH [* 31 Jan 1832 in Sierentz] / † 16 Apr 1863 in Bern, Switzerland) with daughter Henriette SOMMER (* 24 Aug 1856 in Bern, Switzerland).
Based on online search in the respective local vital records we know: Samuel BLOCH and Jeanette
SOMMER did neither get married in Emmendingen (Baden) nor in Sierentz (Haut-Rhin) nor in Mulhouse (Haut-Rhin) about 1837. Based on the reply of the Bern State Archive, they probably also did not get married in Bern, Switzerland.
Jeanette SOMMER was not born about 1818 in Sierentz (Haut-Rhin)! I [Ute – TGAC] have not been able to establish the place of birth for Jeanette SOMMER without her 1837 marriage record. I [Ute- TGAC] assume that Jeanette SOMMER was not born in Sierentz but that she might have lived there before she moved to Bern, making Sierentz her previous place of residence – But it is not her place of birth. I [Ute] have double checked the Sierentz birth records 1808 – 1825: No Jeanette SOMMER!!!
It is impossible to find the birth record for Samuel BLOCH who was most likely born in Emmendingen about 1807/1808. If vital records had been kept for Emmendingen before 1811, they don’t exist
anymore.
Files (12): Baden-Baden_1868_marriage_no16a_GUTMANN-DREIFUSS, Ettenheim-Altdorf_1871_death_DREIFUSS-Sophie, Altdorf_1864_marriage_no3_DREIFUSS-HIRSCH, Kenzingen_1904_death_DREIFUSS-Abraham, 1864_death_Rosa-BERNHEIMER_case, DREIFUSS-BLOCH_Genealogy-Project_TGAC-REPORT_19-Apr-2023, Altdorf_1864_death_no4_Lisette-DREIFUSS, Altdorf_1864_death_no5_Rosa-BERNHEIM, Altdorf_1864_death_no6_Simon-DREIFUSS, Altdorf_1850_birth_no14_Leopold-DREIFUSS, 1871_Emma-DREIFUSS_emigration, 1875_Heinrich-DREYFUSS_emigration
DREIFUSS - BLOCH Genealogy / TGAC / Report / 19 April 2023 (with 12 attachments that are in multimedia)
NEW “positive” information / NEW records. NEW “negative” information (method of elimination).
Selected genealogical symbols:
* Birth / (*) Born out-of-wedlock / ~ Baptism / o Engagement (proclamation of marriage) / ∞
Marriage / † Death / o-o Illegitimate union / # Burial / NN = no name [unknown]
A. DREIFUSS / BERNHEIMER residences in Altdorf
Action: Contact to Robert Krais in January + March 2023 (email)
Result: The son Roman Krais has responded to my email(s). Sadly, Robert Krais has suddenly passed away on January 29th, 2023. Roman Krais himself is not involved in genealogy. He is dealing with Robert Krais’ legacy though. I [Ute-TGAC] have asked him to let me know in case he comes across documents related to the DREIFUSS family…
For the September trip preparations, I will contact the Altdorf non-profit association
“Ehemalige Synagoge – Heute Kunsthalle Altdorf e.V.”
Action: Search for collections at the Central Land Register Archive Kornwestheim of the Baden- Württemberg State Archive in January 2023
Result: For land register records before 1900 – Reference to the Ortenaukreis County Archive [Kreisarchiv des Ortenaukreises] for Altdorf, Ettenheim district.
Action: Contact the Ortenaukreis County Archive in mid-April 2023 (email) Result: Reply / Result - PENDING
B. Fate of Isaak DREIFUSS
Chronological order of verified events starting with the death of Isaak DREIFUSS’ wife Rosa in 1864:
Date
Event & Notes
16 Apr 1864
Death of Isaak’s 2nd wife Rosa neé BERNHEIMER in Altdorf [age 42 ½]
Source: Altdorf civil registry records / State Archive Freiburg (for Baden)
05 Jun 1864
Death of Isaak’s father-in-law Salomon BERNHEIMER in Altdorf
Source: Altdorf civil registry records
15 Jun 1864
Death of Isaak’s son Simon [age 1] in Altdorf
Source: Altdorf civil registry records
15 Jun 1864
Marriage of Isaak’s son Abraham DREIFUSS in Altdorf Wife: Augusta HIRSCH
Source: Altdorf civil registry records
04 Feb 1865
Summons for Isaak DREIFUSS at Mahlberg court
Regarding the division of the estate of † Salomon BERNHEIMER
Source: Mahlberg court record [Myrah Adams research]
17 Jul 1866
Regarding the bequest of Salomon BERNHEIMER [† 05 Jun 1864]:
Guardians assigned for the children of Isaak DREIFUSS
Maier DREIFUSS & Marx MAIER [ref. to record Nr. 4252 / 17 Jul 1866] Maier DREIFUSS = half-nephew of Isaak * 1820 via half-brother Aron
Abraham DREIFUSS (deputy) = probably Isaak’s oldest son * 1841
Samuel DREIFUSS (supervisor) = probably Isaak’s brother * 1806
Source: Ettenheim district court [record Nr. 4539 / 31 Jul 1866]
22 Apr 1868
Marriage of daughter Dusette DREIFUSS in Baden-Baden Husband: Louis Lazarus GUTMANN
Note: “…legitimate daughter of the merchant in Altdorf, Isaac DREIFUSS, and
the deceased Sarah SCHWEIZER…” [indicating Isaak was alive in April 1868]
Source: Baden-Baden civil registry records
1868
Emigration of Isaak’s son Leopold to USA
Source: DREIFUSS ancestors book [Peter & Jeff Dreifuss / 2020]
1871
Emigration of Isaak’s daughter Emma to USA
Source: Baden-Württemberg State Archive Karlsruhe
10 May 1871
Death of Isaak’s daughter Sophie DREIFUSS in Altdorf
Source: OSB Altdorf
1874
Emigration of Isaak’s son Aaron to USA
Source: DREIFUSS ancestors book [Peter & Jeff Dreifuss / 2020]
1875
Emigration of Isaak’s son Heinrich “Henry” to USA
Source: Baden-Württemberg State Archive Karlsruhe
24 Jun 1877
Death of Isaak’s brother Samuel DREIFUSS in Altdorf
Assigned in 1866 as supervisor for guardians for Isaak’s children
Source: OSB Altdorf
1880 or 1882
Emigration of Isaak’s daughter Rosa to USA
Source: DREIFUSS ancestors book [Peter & Jeff Dreifuss / 2020]
In July 1866, 7 children of Isaak DREIFUSS were still alive and had to be taken care of (age 5 – 26): Children out of 1st marriage of Isaak DREIFUSS with Sara SCHWEIZER († 17 Dec 1847):
Dusette [Dekla]: * 29 Apr 1839 [age 26] / ∞ 22 Apr 1868 in Baden-Baden
Abraham: * 16 May 1841 [age 25] / ∞ 15 Jun 1864 in Altdorf
- Sophie [Sofia]: * 10 Jun 1846 [age 20] / † 10 May 1871 [age 24]
Children out of 2nd marriage of Isaak DREIFUSS with Rosa BERNHEIMER († 16 Apr 1864):
Leopold: * 28 Oct 1850 [age 15] / to USA 1868 [arrival in New York on 28 Sep 1868]
- Emma: * 26 Dec 1852 [age 13] / to USA 1871
Aaron: * 22 May 1857 [age 9] / to USA 1874
Heinrich: * 29 Jan 1859 [age 7] / to USA 1875
- Rosa: * 05 Apr 1861 [age 5] / to USA 1880 or 1882
When Isaak DREIFUSS became a widower on 16 Apr 1864, his own parents and his mother-in-law were already dead. His father-in-law Salomon BERNHEIMER was a widower himself with children on his own – and he died shortly afterwards on 05 Jun 1864. So, neither his parents nor his parents- in-law could have taken care of Isaak DREIFUSS’ 7 children between June 1864 and July 1866 when guardians were assigned. According to the 1868 marriage record for his daughter Dusette, Isaak DREIFUSS was still alive and a merchant in Altdorf in April 1868 (provided that these information are correct). We know that Isaak DREIFUSS did not die in Altdorf because there is no such entry in the OSB Altdorf.
Action: Inquiry at Kenzingen civil registry office [Standesamt] on 19 Nov 2022 (email) for † 1904 record Abraham DREIFUSS
Result: 1904 death record for Abraham DREIFUSS († 22 Sep 1904 in Kenzingen): Husband of Augusta HIRSCH / “Son of the deceased married couple Isack DREIFUSS, merchant – The name of the wife could not be established – Both have last resided in Altdorf.” The death was reported by the merchant Ludwig DREIFUSS (probably Abraham’s son).
The 1904 death record for Abraham DREIFUSS did not reveal any helpful, specific or new information about his father Isaak DREIFUSS.
Reply by
Action: Search Baden-Baden (Baden) vital records for 1868 marriage DREIFUSS - HIRSCH Result: ∞ 22 Apr 1868 in Baden-Baden: Louis Lazarus GUTMANN, master tailor (* 20 Jul 1841
in Gernsbach as the son of Marx GUTMANN and Zerlina [Sophie] HORNBURGER) and Dusette DREIFUSS (* 29 Aug 1839 in Altdorf as the daughter of Isaac DREIFUSS, merchant in Altdorf, and the deceased Sarah SCHWEIZER). Proclamations took place in the Synagoges of Gernsbach (Murgtal), Altdorf and Kippenheim.
Action: Inquiry at Ettingen civil registry office [Standesamt] on 19 Nov 2022 (email) for † 1877 record Samuel DREIFUSS and for † 1871 record Sophie DREIFUSS
Result: There is no 1877 death record in Altdorf for Samuel DREIFUSS.
1871 death record for Sophie DREIFUSS († 10 May 1871 in Altdorf): 24 years / Altdorf / “Legitimate daughter of Isak DREIFUS, merchant, and Sara SCHWEIZER - Both residing in Altdorf.” The death was reported by a relative Isak GÜNDELFINGER. We know that Sara SCHWEIZER has died 1847 – Therefore the statement for Sophie’s parents “both residing In Altdorf” is not correct and therefore we can’t assume based on this record that Isaak DREIFUSS was still living in Altdorf in 1871. Also, it was not her father Isaak DREIFUSS who had reported Sophie’s death to the authorities…
The 1871 death record for Sophie DREIFUSS did not reveal any helpful, specific or new (reliable) information about her father Isaak DREIFUSS.
Action: Inquiry to Freiburg State Archive [Staatsarchiv] on 21 Nov 2022 (email) for guardianship / emigration records for Isaak DREIFUSS’ children
[Quote Myrah Adams 2007: “…As the focus of my research, when I was at Friburg, was not on the Dreifuss family, I am almost sure that there are even more documents…”]
Result: No emigration records at the Freiburg State Archive for DREIFUSS For emigration registers: Reference to Karlsruhe State Archive
Death notice for Rosa DREIFUSS née BERNHEIMER († 16 Apr 1864 in Altdorf) including
Information about Isaak DREIFUSS’ profession: Nothändler [Geldhändler = money jobber]
Information about the two marriages of Isaak DREIFUSS:
1st ∞ 06 Jun 1838 with Sara SCHWEIZER
2nd ∞ 19 Mar 1848 with Rosa BERNHEIMER
Information about the children of Isaak DREIFUSS [still alive on 16 Apr 1864 / all single]: Out of 1st marriage: Dekla (* 29 Apr 1839) = Dusette
Abraham (* 16 May 1841)
Sofia (* 10 Jun 1846) Out of 2nd marriage: Leopold (* 28 Oct 1850)
Emma (* 26 Dec 1852)
Simon (* 04 May 1855)
Aron (* 22 May 1857)
Heinrich (* 29 Jan 1859)
Rosa (* 05 Apr 1861)
Appointed as guardians for minor heirs: Samuel DREIFUSS and Emanuel DREIFUSS.
Marriage contract: YES / Testament: NO
Assets: about 50 fl. [Rhenish guilder] – This money belonged to the 3 children of the 1st marriage (see above) / “Since there are no other assets (or property), no notary needs to be assigned” / “Due to notorious poverty, a ratification procedure in court is not possible.” / “The very little chattel consists of 3 old beds, the merest clothes and
some linen which belongs to the children of the 1st marriage. Due to notorious
poverty it is not possible to divide those possessions up.”
Marriage contract (17 Mar 1848) was concluded in the presence and with the involvement of the bride’s father Salomon BERNHEIMER (local merchant) / Witnesses: Isak BERNHEIMER and Ismel SCHNURMANN (both local merchants) / The bride acknowledges the assets bequeathed by the deceased 1st wife of the groom /
The father of the bride gave her 400 fl. [Rhenish guilder] in cash and chattel worth 233 guilder and 41kreutzer.
No other relevant records for Isaak DREIFUSS at the Staatsarchiv Freiburg Reply by Mr. Rees [Staatsarchiv Freiburg]
Action: Inquiry to Karlsruhe State Archive [Generallandesarchiv] in February 2023 (email)
for emigration records for Isaak DREIFUSS’ children (particularly for Emma and Heinrich)
Result: Register for Emigration and Immigration (Baden):
Entry for Emma DREIFUSS (Emigration 1871 / Altdorf / age 19 / No profession stated) Entry for Heinris DREYFUSS (Emigration 1875 / Altdorf / age 16 / Baker)
These records are only name lists with very few information, meaning these documents do not provide any information about their father Isaak DREIFUSS. More detailed records such as “request for emigration permit” do not exist anymore (for DREIFUSS).
Reply by Manfred Hennhöfer [Generallandesarchiv Karlsruhe]
It becomes apparent that Isaak DREIFUSS was not in the position to provide well for his family because in April 1864 there was nothing left of his 2nd wife Rosa née BERNHEIMER’s dowry (see above) and apparently also very little of his 1st wife Sara SCHWEIZER’s dowry. Also, when Rosa née BERNHEIMER died on 16 Apr 1864, immediately two guardians were assigned for the minor children – Meaning that Isaak DREIFUSS as the father of these children was probably not considered to be fit to take care of the children after his wife’s death. It can be assumed that Isaak DREIFUSS has left Altdorf at some point – But his whereabouts later in life (and his place of death) remain unknown.
C. BLOCH – SOMMER family
Info about family of Lazarus BLOCH from Müllheim (Baden) & Judith WEIL provided by Julianne Geike (Emmendingen archive / Nov 2020) with Samuel BLOCH * ca. 1804 (in Emmendingen).
Info in Lens book: Samuel BLOCH * 07 Jan 1807 in Emmendingen or Mulhouse (Haut-Rhin)
/ parents: Isaac BLOCH & Beyle MOSEN (no further information).
Info provided by Bern Stadtarchiv (1995): Samuel BLOCH * 1808 (from Emmendingen) and Jeanette SOMMER * 1818 in Sievenz (probably Sierenz / Sierentz) / Children of Samuel BLOCH & Jeanette SOMMER: Ida BLOCH (* 20 Nov 1838 / † 08 Jan 1860), Rosale BLOCH (* 1840), Leopold BLOCH (* 1843), Eduard BLOCH (* 29 Apr 1847), Eugenie BLOCH (* 1849).
Tombstone for Eugenie DREIFUSS neé BLOCH † 29 Oct 1937 in New York, USA: * 29 Apr 1853 in Bern, Switzerland.
These are conflicting information in regard to Samuel BLOCH’s birth date to be either ca. 1804 or 1807 or ca. 1808! There were several BLOCH families in Emmendingen! See note from Julianne Geike at the Emmendingen town archive (Stadtarchiv Emmendingen) – See below
In order to verify Samuel BLOCH’s birth date / pace of birth, it is crucial to search for his birth record and for the 1837 marriage record for Samuel BLOCH and Jeanette SOMMER because in such a marriage record usually the names of the parents for both, the groom and the bride (and often the birth places / birth dates) are being stated. Possible 1837 wedding locations: Bern (Switzerland) / Emmendingen (Baden) / Sierentz (Haut-Rhin) / Mulhouse (Haut-Rhin). It is also crucial to search for the * 1849 (1853) record for the daughter Eugenie BLOCH, probably in Bern, Switzerland, in order to verify where / when she was born as the daughter of Samuel BLOCH & Jeanette SOMMER.
Information from the 1995 letter from the Stadtarchiv Bern [Bern City Archive]: “Samuel BLOCH (called Wemser?), born 1808, from Emmendingen (Baden), horse trader, married 1837 to Jeanette SOMMER, born 1818, from Sivenz (= Sierenz / Sierentz) / Children: Ida BLOCH (* 20 Nov 1838 / † 08 Jan 1860 [??? difficult to decipher], Rosale BLOCH (* 1840), Leopold BLOCH (* 1843), Eduard BLOCH (* 29 Apr 1847) and Eugenie BLOCH (* 1849) / 1853 move to Thun, then return to Bern / Later expelled / Aug 1854 in Yverdon” [Sources: Alien residents index 1845 – 1850 / Register of Jews 1840 – 1854: Resident sheet of 25 Jan 1837, renewed on 11 Apr [???] 1853].
Action: Search Emmendingen, Baden, civil registry records (1811 – 1869) Result: No ∞ record found 1833 – 1842 in Emmendingen for BLOCH – SOMMER
No * records found 1837 – 1845 in Emmendingen for children of BLOCH – SOMMER Record found in the 1841 birth records for the Emmendingen Jewish community about the attestation on 29 Nov 1841 in Bern for two children of Samuel BLOCH & Jeanette SOMMER: Ida BLOCH (* 20 Nov 1838 in Bern) / Rosalie BLOCH (* 27 Nov 1840 in Bern) / attested by the Bern state clerk Gottlieb Rud. Rufenacht and two members of the Jewish community Bern: Theodor Levi and Isaac Picard (or Picert – difficult to read). In late 1841, Samuel
BLOCH was a horse trader in Bern, Switzerland. The 1841 entry in the Emmendingen birth Register is only an “attestation”, meaning these two children Ida BLOCH and Rosalie BLOCH were not born in Emmendingen – otherwise there would be actual individual birth entries. My [Ute-TGAC] interpretation is that Samuel BLOCH might have wanted to secure the so- called “right of residence” [Heimatrecht] in Emmendingen for both his daughters. Without any kind of social security / health care / pension system in the early / mid-1880s, the only “security” people had was this “right of residence” in a particular community which was acquired by birth (or marriage). The official proof to be entitled was the entry in the official birth (or marriage) records. According to the information provided by the Canton Bern State Archive (see below), Jews were not entitled for any kind of such a “right of residence” in Bern, Switzerland, at that time. I [Ute-TGAC] think that Samuel BLOCH wanted to make sure that his daughters got the “right of residence” in his home Emmendingen, Baden. The “Heimatrecht” included the community’s “Duty of Care” benefits for those residents who were poor and/or did not have a family to provide for them. Maybe it was a precaution in case the daughters did not get married? With this 1841 attestation entry in the Emmedingen vital records, Ida and Rosalie had acquired the “right of residence” in Emmendingen and this would have allowed them to move to and live in Emmendingen.
Without such a “right of residence”, a community had the right to refuse a settlement and to send “foreigners” away. There might have been another reason for this 1841 entry in the Emmendingen vital records – But this “Heimatrecht” situation could have been one.
Random finding: ∞ 26 Dec 1814 in Emmendingen: Elias BLOCH (age 29 / father: Lazer BLOCH / mother: Judith WEIL) and Eva SOMMER (age 18 / father: Moses Levi SOMMER / Mother: Rosina ULMANN) – Elias BLOCH (* ca. 1785) is an older brother of Samuel BLOCH.
Action: Contact Julianne Geike (Stadtarchiv) for Emmendingen vital records on 21Nov 2022 for Samuel BLOCH * 1807 / 1808 or * 1804 (vital records before 1811 are NOT online)
Result: The ca. 1804 birth year for Samuel BLOCH in the family sheet Mrs. Geike had sent to Mr. Dreifuss is an estimation based on alternative sources [NOT primary vital records] = Here an 1830 inheritance record for Lazarus BLOCH mentioning an adult son Samuel BLOCH (21 years or older). Mrs. Geike has stated now that she can’t reconstruct how a
“ca. 1804” birth year was calculated for Samuel BLOCH (son of Lazarus BLOCH). His brother Model was presumably born 1804 (no twin mentioned). The birth year of another brother Salomon was calculated “1807/1808” – Therefore: It is most likely that Samuel BLOCH was born ca. 1805 – 1807. In order to determine Samuel BLOCH’s correct birth date, we need either his Emmendigen birth record or the 1837 marriage record BLOCH / SOMMER.
No death record in Emmendingen (Baden) for a member of the BLOCH / SOMMER family. Confirmation by Julianne Geike: No BLOCH / SOMMER marriage in Emmendingen ca. 1837. For vital records before 1811 – Reference to the Baden State Archive Freiburg
Action: Contact Baden-Württemberg State Archive Freiburg in March 2023 (email) For vital records before 1811 for Emmendingen (Jewish community)
Result: Reference to the Deutsche Zentralstelle für Genealogie [Staatsarchiv Leipzig] Reply by Mr. Rees [Staatsarchiv Freiburg]
Action: Contact Deutsche Zentralstelle für Genealogie Leipzig] in March 2023 (email) For vital records before 1811 for Emmendingen (Jewish community)
Result: No vital records exist for Emmendingen before 1811 Reply by Dolores Herrmann [Staatsarchiv Leipzig]
Action: Contact Stadtarchiv Bern (through website) on 21 Nov 2022 (online contact form)
For vital records (∞ 1837 BLOCH – SOMMER / * 1849 or 1853 Eugenie BLOCH)
Result: No civil registry records stored at the Stadtarchiv Bern – Reference to the Staatsarchiv des Kantons Bern and/or the Jüdische Gemeinde Bern [Jewish community Bern].
Reply by Mr. Thomet [Stadtarchiv Bern]
You [Pete] have also contacted the Stadtarchiv Bern and received a reply from Mr. Camenzind – mostly verifying these information you had received in the 1995 letter – and confirming the reference to Yverdon, Switzerland, where the BLOCH family had moved to in 1854.
NEW information retrieved from the record copies which were not included in the 1995 letter:
The move of the BLOCH family to Yverdon in 1854 was reported to the Bern authorities by Eduard SOMMER / Legitimation certificate was sent to Eduard SOMMER on August 5th, 1854. Possible action: Contact Mr. Camenzind [Stadtarchiv Bern] for a record for Eduard SOMMER in the same source: SAB_1278_0_2 Kontrolle über die Juden / SAB_1278_1_2 Fremden- Einwohnerregister Bern.
Places of residence for BLOCH family in Bern (Jewish Quarter): Apartments no. 82 (1837) / no. 122 (1849), no. 81 ??? (1850) and no. 22 (1853)
Possible action: Contact Mr. Camenzind [Stadtarchiv Bern] for maps of the Jewish Quarter in order to find out where these apartments were located back then.
On the bottom of the first page for the BLOCH family, there is a Judith BLOCH mentioned as a maid / servant [Magd / Dienstbote]. She was born 1830, came to Bern 1849 and went back to Emmendingen in 1850. She has lived in apartment no. 122 in Bern (Jewish quarter) together with Samuel BLOCH’s family. Based on “The Family of Lazarus BLOCH” sheet, Judith BLOCH (* 1830 in Emmendingen) was a niece of Samuel BLOCH as a daughter of his oldest brother Elias BLOCH (* ca. 1786) and Eva SOMMER (* ca. 1793). Judith BLOCH has then married Alexander WEIL (see their children * 1857 – 1865).
Action: Contact the Jüdische Gemeinde Bern [Jewish Community Bern] on 21 Nov 2022 (email)
For vital records (∞ 1837 BLOCH – SOMMER / * 1849 or 1853 Eugenie BLOCH)
Result: No records in the collections of the Jüdische Gemeinde Bern for BLOCH family – Reference to the Staatsarchiv des Kantons Bern [Canton Bern State Archive] Reply by Fabienne Messerli [Jüdische Gemeinde Bern]
Action: Contact Dr. Barbara Studer at the Staatsarchiv des Kantons Bern in March 2023 (email) for BLOCH – SOMMER family 1837 – 1853 in Bern, Switzerland
Result: No records in the collections of the Staatsarchiv des Kantons Bern for BLOCH
Until the second half of the 1800s, the Jewish people in Bern, Switzerland, were not at all coequal to other residents there. Also, the 1848 Swiss Federal Constitution [Bundesverfassung] excluded Jews from the then applied so-called “right of free movement” [Freizügikeit], meaning Jews were not allowed to freely choose their place of residence in Switzerland. Compared to other Cantons, Bern was one of the most
progressive Swiss cantons in regard to the equality of the Jewish population: “Already” in 1846, the Bern government granted Jews the right of settlement and freedom of trade. That was about one generation earlier than the rest of Switzerland! It was not before 1883 that a Synagoge was erected in Bern. Switzerland did not keep civil registry records before 1876. So: There are no civil registry vital records before 1876 in Bern, Switzerland. Dr. Barbara Studer assumes that Samuel BLOCH and Jeanette SOMMER did not get married in Bern about 1837 – There was no Jewish community in Bern and a civil marriage was not possible in Bern back then. Dr. Barbara Studer has checked the church records of Christian parishes in the city of Bern: There is no Christian marriage recorded for Samuel BLOCH and Jeanette SOMMER in the city of Bern, Switzerland.
Dr. Studer assumes that they got married in Lengnau or Endingen in the Aargau Canton, or that they got married at a place in the Alsace, France, or in Baden where they had rather large Jewish communities and Synagoges.
The only source for Jews in Bern in the early / mid-1800s are the “Control of the Jews”
[Kontrolle über die Juden] / records about registered Jews (see Stadtarchiv Bern above).
Action: Search Mulhouse (Haut-Rhin) vital records (* 1804 / * 1807 – 1808) for BLOCH (online) Result: * 09 Jan 1804 Samuel BLOCH (father: Isaak BLOCH / mother: Beyle MOISEN)
* 21 Apr 1807 Salomon BLOCH (father: Isaak BLOCH / mother: Beyle MOISEN) No * record for Samuel BLOCH ca. 1807/1808 in Mulhouse (Haut-Rhin)
No ∞ record found 1836 – 1838 in Mulhouse (Haut-Rhin) for BLOCH – SOMMER
Based on other sources I [Ute-TGAC] think it is safe to assume that Samuel BLOCH was born 1807/1808 in Emmendingen, Baden, as the son of Lazarus BLOCH and Judith WEIL.
Action: Search Sierentz / Hegenheim / Hagenthal (Haut-Rhin, Alsace) civil registry records for vital records for Jeanette SOMMER (and her parents)
Result: No ∞ record found 1832 – 1842 in Sierentz (Haut-Rhin) for BLOCH – SOMMER No * record found 1808 – 1825 in Sierentz (Haut-Rhin) for Jeanette SOMMER
The only two SOMMER children born in Sierentz in this time frame were Rosine SOMMER (* 1808) and Moyser SOMMER (* 1821), both with the father Guillaume [Wilhelm] SOMMER. There were 5 men with the surname SOMMER who got married in Sierentz 1808 – 1812:
∞ 1808 Guillaume SOMMER & Sibille HAAS
∞ 1810 Francois SOMMER & Eva NORDEMANN (from Hegenheim, Haut-Rhin)
∞ 1810 Lazare SOMMER & Carolina BLOCH (from Mullenheim – maybe Müllheim, Baden)
∞ 1812 Samuel SOMMER & Madelene NORDMANN (from Bern, Switzerland)
∞ 1812 Jaques SOMMER & Jeanette BUMSEL (from Ober Hagenthal, Haut-Rhin) No * record found 1815 – 1826 in Hegenheim (Haut-Rhin) for Jeanette SOMMER
No * record found 1815 – 1826 in Hagenthal le Bas (Haut-Rhin) for Jeanette SOMMER No * record found 1815 – 1826 in Müllheim (Baden) for Jeanette SOMMER
Random Finding: * 12 Dec 1818 in Müllheim (Baden): Hanna SOMMER (father: Lazarus SOMMER / mother: Katharina BLOCH / witnesses: Moses BLOCH and Jacob BLOCH)
Action: Contact A.S.I.J.A. (Le Judaisme d’Alsace et de Lorraine) on 21 Nov 2022 (email)
for Jeanette SOMMER * 1818 in Sierentz ??? / plus online research on their website Result: Reference to “GenAmi – Association de la genealogie juive” (forum & online databases)
No response / No lead for Jeanette SOMMER (* 1818) in Sierentz from GenAmi community No findings / No lead for Jeanette SOMMER (* 1818) in Sierentz in GenAmi online databases
Random finding: * 04 Feb 1824 in Sierentz: Ludwig SOMMER (∞ to Marie BLOCH [* 31 Jan 1832 in Sierentz] / † 16 Apr 1863 in Bern, Switzerland) with daughter Henriette SOMMER (* 24 Aug 1856 in Bern, Switzerland).
Based on online search in the respective local vital records we know: Samuel BLOCH and Jeanette
SOMMER did neither get married in Emmendingen (Baden) nor in Sierentz (Haut-Rhin) nor in Mulhouse (Haut-Rhin) about 1837. Based on the reply of the Bern State Archive, they probably also did not get married in Bern, Switzerland.
Jeanette SOMMER was not born about 1818 in Sierentz (Haut-Rhin)! I [Ute – TGAC] have not been able to establish the place of birth for Jeanette SOMMER without her 1837 marriage record. I [Ute- TGAC] assume that Jeanette SOMMER was not born in Sierentz but that she might have lived there before she moved to Bern, making Sierentz her previous place of residence – But it is not her place of birth. I [Ute] have double checked the Sierentz birth records 1808 – 1825: No Jeanette SOMMER!!!
It is impossible to find the birth record for Samuel BLOCH who was most likely born in Emmendingen about 1807/1808. If vital records had been kept for Emmendingen before 1811, they don’t exist
anymore.
Files (12): Baden-Baden_1868_marriage_no16a_GUTMANN-DREIFUSS, Ettenheim-Altdorf_1871_death_DREIFUSS-Sophie, Altdorf_1864_marriage_no3_DREIFUSS-HIRSCH, Kenzingen_1904_death_DREIFUSS-Abraham, 1864_death_Rosa-BERNHEIMER_case, DREIFUSS-BLOCH_Genealogy-Project_TGAC-REPORT_19-Apr-2023, Altdorf_1864_death_no4_Lisette-DREIFUSS, Altdorf_1864_death_no5_Rosa-BERNHEIM, Altdorf_1864_death_no6_Simon-DREIFUSS, Altdorf_1850_birth_no14_Leopold-DREIFUSS, 1871_Emma-DREIFUSS_emigration, 1875_Heinrich-DREYFUSS_emigration
20. “1880 Federal Census,” Broadway, Brooklyn, NY.
1880 United States Federal Census (~2 yrs before grandpa was born)
about Leopold Dreifuss
Name: Leopold Dreifuss
Home in 1880: Kings (Brooklyn), New York City-Greater, New York
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Birthplace: Baden
Relation to Head of Household: Self (Head)
Spouse's Name: Eugene
Father's birthplace: Baden
Mother's birthplace: Baden
Neighbors: View others on page
Occupation: Butcher
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Cannot read/write:
Blind:
Deaf and dumb:
Otherwise disabled:
Idiotic or insane:
View Image
Household Members:
Name Age
Leopold Dreifuss 30
Eugene Dreifuss 28
Rosa Dreifuss 6
Ida Dreifuss 4
Martha Dreifuss 1
1880 United States Federal Census (~2 yrs before grandpa was born)
about Leopold Dreifuss
Name: Leopold Dreifuss
Home in 1880: Kings (Brooklyn), New York City-Greater, New York
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Birthplace: Baden
Relation to Head of Household: Self (Head)
Spouse's Name: Eugene
Father's birthplace: Baden
Mother's birthplace: Baden
Neighbors: View others on page
Occupation: Butcher
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Cannot read/write:
Blind:
Deaf and dumb:
Otherwise disabled:
Idiotic or insane:
View Image
Household Members:
Name Age
Leopold Dreifuss 30
Eugene Dreifuss 28
Rosa Dreifuss 6
Ida Dreifuss 4
Martha Dreifuss 1
21. P Dreifuss.
http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/ViewRecordRedir.aspx?...02&rpid=48879857
1900 United States Federal Census
about Leopold Dreifuss
Name: Leopold Dreifuss
[Leopold Drupus]
Home in 1900: Brooklyn Ward 28, Kings, New York
Age: 42
Birth Date: Oct 1850
Birthplace: Germany
Race: White
Ethnicity: American
Immigration Year: 1868
Relationship to head-of-house: Head
Father's Birthplace: Germany
Mother's Birthplace: Germany
Spouse's Name: Eugenia
Marriage Year: 1873
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 27
Residence : New York City, Kings, New York
Occupation: View Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Leopold Dreifuss 42
Eugenia Dreifuss 47
Rosie Dreifuss 25
Martha Dreifuss 21
Isaac Dreifuss 18
Emma Dreifuss 17
Samuel Dreifuss 15
Estelle Dreifuss 12
Walter Dreifuss 8
http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/ViewRecordRedir.aspx?...02&rpid=48879857
1900 United States Federal Census
about Leopold Dreifuss
Name: Leopold Dreifuss
[Leopold Drupus]
Home in 1900: Brooklyn Ward 28, Kings, New York
Age: 42
Birth Date: Oct 1850
Birthplace: Germany
Race: White
Ethnicity: American
Immigration Year: 1868
Relationship to head-of-house: Head
Father's Birthplace: Germany
Mother's Birthplace: Germany
Spouse's Name: Eugenia
Marriage Year: 1873
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 27
Residence : New York City, Kings, New York
Occupation: View Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Leopold Dreifuss 42
Eugenia Dreifuss 47
Rosie Dreifuss 25
Martha Dreifuss 21
Isaac Dreifuss 18
Emma Dreifuss 17
Samuel Dreifuss 15
Estelle Dreifuss 12
Walter Dreifuss 8
23. “City of Bern Search for Eugnie Bloch’s fsmily there,” April 2023, City of Bern, Web and then emails.
After writing to the Canton of Bern via their web site by mistake, I went to the City of Bern archives at https://www.bern.ch/en and confimed, clarified, learned more specific information, and obtained valuable documents.
This email was received on Apr 5, 2023 from Lukas.Camenzind@BERN.CH with 3 attachments:
Dear Mr. Dreifuss,
Mrs. Ute Mehlhorn sent us the confirmation of payment and I therefore conducted the research about Eugenie Bloch.
I found the two entries in the registers mentioned by Marianne Howald in her letter from 1995, however, I couldn’t find any more indications about the presence of the Bloch family in Bern. As the family left Bern in the 1850s and as there is no national register, you might have to contact the city archives of Yverdon and see if there are any records left from that time (https://www.yverdon-les-bains.ch/votre-commune/histoire-archives).
Here is a short summary of the two entries:
Samuel Bloch was from Emmendingen (Baden) and born in 1808. According to the record, he was also called “Xander” or “Zander”. His wife Jeannette Sommer, which he married in march 1837, was born in Sierenz (Alsace) in 1818. The register lists Samuel’s occupation as horse trader (Pferdhändler), while Jeannette is without profession (ohne Beruf). Their children Jdda/Ida (20.11.1838-8.1.1850), Rosalia/Rosalie (*1840), Léopold/Leopold (1843), Edouard/Eduard (deceased 29.4.1847) and Eugenia (1849) were schoolchildren (schulbesuchend).
The family arrived in Bern in January 1837, moved to Thun in 1853, returned to Berne shortly after but was sent away. The family then went to Yverdon.
The rest of their story is mentioned in the column to the right (transcribed and translated below):
Zieht mit Familie nach Thun N.B. zur Umänderung der L.P. extrah[iert] den 19.t Juli 1853
Wieder eingezogen. Ehemann Güterabtretung A.N.o 17t 1854
Die ganze Familie fort gewiesen
U[nd] befinden sich l[au]t Bericht des Eduard Sommer in Yverdon, die N.B. der L.P. zugestellt
U[nd] leg. Sch. an Ed[uard] Sommer den 5. Aug[ust] 1854.
Moved to Thun with family, residence permit extracted [and sent] to police for modification on July 19th 1853
Moved back [to Bern], assignment of goods 1854.
The whole family sent away
[The family] resides in Yverdon according to Eduard Sommer, residence permit sent to police.
Legitimation certificate sent to Eduard Sommer on August 5th 1854.
Annexed, you will find the two extracts from SAB_1278_0_2 (Kontrolle über die Juden) and SAB_1278_1_2 (Fremden-Einwohnerregister).
Please don’t hesitate to contact us if you have any more questions.
Kind regards,
Lukas Camenzind, Mitarbeiter Archiv
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After writing to the Canton of Bern via their web site by mistake, I went to the City of Bern archives at https://www.bern.ch/en and confimed, clarified, learned more specific information, and obtained valuable documents.
This email was received on Apr 5, 2023 from Lukas.Camenzind@BERN.CH with 3 attachments:
Dear Mr. Dreifuss,
Mrs. Ute Mehlhorn sent us the confirmation of payment and I therefore conducted the research about Eugenie Bloch.
I found the two entries in the registers mentioned by Marianne Howald in her letter from 1995, however, I couldn’t find any more indications about the presence of the Bloch family in Bern. As the family left Bern in the 1850s and as there is no national register, you might have to contact the city archives of Yverdon and see if there are any records left from that time (https://www.yverdon-les-bains.ch/votre-commune/histoire-archives).
Here is a short summary of the two entries:
Samuel Bloch was from Emmendingen (Baden) and born in 1808. According to the record, he was also called “Xander” or “Zander”. His wife Jeannette Sommer, which he married in march 1837, was born in Sierenz (Alsace) in 1818. The register lists Samuel’s occupation as horse trader (Pferdhändler), while Jeannette is without profession (ohne Beruf). Their children Jdda/Ida (20.11.1838-8.1.1850), Rosalia/Rosalie (*1840), Léopold/Leopold (1843), Edouard/Eduard (deceased 29.4.1847) and Eugenia (1849) were schoolchildren (schulbesuchend).
The family arrived in Bern in January 1837, moved to Thun in 1853, returned to Berne shortly after but was sent away. The family then went to Yverdon.
The rest of their story is mentioned in the column to the right (transcribed and translated below):
Zieht mit Familie nach Thun N.B. zur Umänderung der L.P. extrah[iert] den 19.t Juli 1853
Wieder eingezogen. Ehemann Güterabtretung A.N.o 17t 1854
Die ganze Familie fort gewiesen
U[nd] befinden sich l[au]t Bericht des Eduard Sommer in Yverdon, die N.B. der L.P. zugestellt
U[nd] leg. Sch. an Ed[uard] Sommer den 5. Aug[ust] 1854.
Moved to Thun with family, residence permit extracted [and sent] to police for modification on July 19th 1853
Moved back [to Bern], assignment of goods 1854.
The whole family sent away
[The family] resides in Yverdon according to Eduard Sommer, residence permit sent to police.
Legitimation certificate sent to Eduard Sommer on August 5th 1854.
Annexed, you will find the two extracts from SAB_1278_0_2 (Kontrolle über die Juden) and SAB_1278_1_2 (Fremden-Einwohnerregister).
Please don’t hesitate to contact us if you have any more questions.
Kind regards,
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24. From 1920 Census Soundex Eugenie was 65 whivh would place her birth as possibly in ~1855???
From Delayed birth certificate of Emma Dreifuss, Eugenia was 3 years older than Leopold, although the age for Leopold was wrong (age 30 on November 9, 1883).
From Delayed birth certificate of Emma Dreifuss, Eugenia was 3 years older than Leopold, although the age for Leopold was wrong (age 30 on November 9, 1883).
25. “Eugenie Block Dreifuss Death Certificate.”
170 W 74th St was. tjen the Berkely Hotel. Accoding to the certificate she was born April 29, 1853 in Switzerland, three yrs younger than leopold. She died Oct 29, 1937. Age was 84 Yrs and 6 months.
Her father was Samuel Bloch and mother was Jeanette Summer
170 W 74th St was. tjen the Berkely Hotel. Accoding to the certificate she was born April 29, 1853 in Switzerland, three yrs younger than leopold. She died Oct 29, 1937. Age was 84 Yrs and 6 months.
Her father was Samuel Bloch and mother was Jeanette Summer
26. “Buddy Kazlow Phone Conversation 8/5/04.”
Buddy claimed that Eugenie Bloch came to the US with a sister and that Leopold Bloch never came to the US.
Buddy claimed that Eugenie Bloch came to the US with a sister and that Leopold Bloch never came to the US.
27. “1920 Federal Census,” “1920 Federal Census,” “1920 Federal Census,” “1920 Federal Census,” “1920 Federal Census,” Manhatten, New York, 12 Jan 1920, Ancestry.com.
1920 United States Federal Census
Record details
Name
Eugenie Dreifuss
Age
65
Birth Year
1855
Birthplace
Switzerland
Home in 1920
Manhattan Assembly District 22, New York, New York
Street
Broadway
Residence Date
1920
Race
White
Gender
Female
Immigration Year
1865
Relation to Head of House
Head
Marital Status
Widowed
Father's Birthplace
Baden
Mother's Birthplace
Switzerland
Native Tongue
German
Able to Speak English
Yes
Home Owned or Rented
Rented
Naturalization Status
Naturalized
Able to read
Yes
Able to Write
Yes
Name
Age
Eugenie Dreifuss
65
Rose Dreifuss
37
Emma Stone
32
Walter Dreifuss
30
Estelle Mautner
27
Lester Stone
9
1920 United States Federal Census
Record details
Name
Eugenie Dreifuss
Age
65
Birth Year
1855
Birthplace
Switzerland
Home in 1920
Manhattan Assembly District 22, New York, New York
Street
Broadway
Residence Date
1920
Race
White
Gender
Female
Immigration Year
1865
Relation to Head of House
Head
Marital Status
Widowed
Father's Birthplace
Baden
Mother's Birthplace
Switzerland
Native Tongue
German
Able to Speak English
Yes
Home Owned or Rented
Rented
Naturalization Status
Naturalized
Able to read
Yes
Able to Write
Yes
Name
Age
Eugenie Dreifuss
65
Rose Dreifuss
37
Emma Stone
32
Walter Dreifuss
30
Estelle Mautner
27
Lester Stone
9
28. “1930 Federal Census,” Manhatten, NY, 2 April 1930.
1930 Federal Census
156th? Street
Eugenia Dreyfuss 76 Widow immigrated 1866
Rose 34 single Heairdresser Private business
1930 Federal Census
156th? Street
Eugenia Dreyfuss 76 Widow immigrated 1866
Rose 34 single Heairdresser Private business
29. A Rosalie Bloch of about the correct age imigrated to the US on March 7, 1865. She was from France. I found the actual records online and they say no more than the following:
Name: Rosalie Bloch
Arrival Date: 07 Mar 1865
Age: 24
Gender: Female
Port of Departure: Le Havre, France
Destination: United States of America
Place of Origin: France
Ship Name: Harpswell
Port of Arrival: New York
Line: 5
Microfilm Roll: 249
List Number: 129
There were no other Blochs.
Unprovable assumption is that Eugenie Bloch was a stowaway on this ship. This is the family story told to me by dad’s cousin, Buddy from Texas a few years before he passed away. Buddy was still working at the time and as sharp as ever but perhaps he liked to spin a tale. Buddy said, her records will never be found since they don’t exist (see ref. source 330). He also said Leopold Bloch never came over.
Name: Rosalie Bloch
Arrival Date: 07 Mar 1865
Age: 24
Gender: Female
Port of Departure: Le Havre, France
Destination: United States of America
Place of Origin: France
Ship Name: Harpswell
Port of Arrival: New York
Line: 5
Microfilm Roll: 249
List Number: 129
There were no other Blochs.
Unprovable assumption is that Eugenie Bloch was a stowaway on this ship. This is the family story told to me by dad’s cousin, Buddy from Texas a few years before he passed away. Buddy was still working at the time and as sharp as ever but perhaps he liked to spin a tale. Buddy said, her records will never be found since they don’t exist (see ref. source 330). He also said Leopold Bloch never came over.
30. Her death certificate lists her as being in US for 72 years at her death. Prior to observing this, LLD's records listed 1866.
31. According to familysearch.com (Mormon Church Records Web Site), Leopold ‘Dryfuss’, son of Isaac ‘Dryfuss’ and Rosa ‘Meyer’ married Eugenie ‘Block’ on 21 JUL 1873 in Manhatten, New York. Batch #M010372 (film records). The year 1873 is borne out by 1900 census records showing them married for 27 years.
Before this information was available, I had found a handwritten note from Joe Dreifuss who wrote "Father & Mother married 1871 - at xxx Bushwickyyy (xxx is 248 crossed out. yyy is several numbers written down and crossed over). But no records were ever found in Brooklyn to support this. Most likely Joe did not know for sure,
Before this information was available, I had found a handwritten note from Joe Dreifuss who wrote "Father & Mother married 1871 - at xxx Bushwickyyy (xxx is 248 crossed out. yyy is several numbers written down and crossed over). But no records were ever found in Brooklyn to support this. Most likely Joe did not know for sure,
32. WESTPHALIA
The "Westphalia" of 1872 was built in 1868 by Caird & Co, Greenock for Hamburg America Line. She was a 3,158 gross ton ship, length 339.9ft x beam 40ft, one funnel, two masts, iron construction, single screw and a speed of 12 knots. There was accommodation for 90-1st, 130-2nd and 520-3rd class passengers. Launched on 24/6/1868, she sailed from Hamburg on her maiden voyage to Southampton and New York on 16/9/1868. She commenced her last voyage from Hamburg to Havre and New York on 28/4/1875 before being laid up. In 1878 she was rebuilt with two funnels and compound engines, and on 30/7/1879 she resumed the Hamburg - Havre - New York service. She started her last voyage to New York on 19/12/1886 and in 1887 was sold to the British company, H.F.Swan of Newcastle who re-engined her and renamed her "Atlantica". In 1888 she went to Gazzo & Schiafino of Italy and was renamed "Provincia di Sao Paulo". In 1890 she was resold to La Veloce of Italy and was renamed "Mentana" (Haws says "Montana") and was further renamed "Sud America" later in 1890. She was finally scrapped in Genoa in 1901. [North Atlantic Seaway by N.R.P.Bonsor, vol.1, p.390] [Merchant Fleets in Profile, vol.4 Hamburg America Line by Duncan Haws.] [Posted to The ShipsList by Ted Finch - 27 October 1997]
Immigrant Ship Information Web Site http://www.fortunecity.com/littleitaly/amalfi/13/shipuz.htm
The "Westphalia" of 1872 was built in 1868 by Caird & Co, Greenock for Hamburg America Line. She was a 3,158 gross ton ship, length 339.9ft x beam 40ft, one funnel, two masts, iron construction, single screw and a speed of 12 knots. There was accommodation for 90-1st, 130-2nd and 520-3rd class passengers. Launched on 24/6/1868, she sailed from Hamburg on her maiden voyage to Southampton and New York on 16/9/1868. She commenced her last voyage from Hamburg to Havre and New York on 28/4/1875 before being laid up. In 1878 she was rebuilt with two funnels and compound engines, and on 30/7/1879 she resumed the Hamburg - Havre - New York service. She started her last voyage to New York on 19/12/1886 and in 1887 was sold to the British company, H.F.Swan of Newcastle who re-engined her and renamed her "Atlantica". In 1888 she went to Gazzo & Schiafino of Italy and was renamed "Provincia di Sao Paulo". In 1890 she was resold to La Veloce of Italy and was renamed "Mentana" (Haws says "Montana") and was further renamed "Sud America" later in 1890. She was finally scrapped in Genoa in 1901. [North Atlantic Seaway by N.R.P.Bonsor, vol.1, p.390] [Merchant Fleets in Profile, vol.4 Hamburg America Line by Duncan Haws.] [Posted to The ShipsList by Ted Finch - 27 October 1997]
Immigrant Ship Information Web Site http://www.fortunecity.com/littleitaly/amalfi/13/shipuz.htm
33. An impt note received February 22, 1999
regarding a notice I posted in Jewishgen
From: Michael Tobias <Michael@mtobias.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: jewishgen digest: February 21, 1999
In message <f50e9d1e.36d1e468@aol.com>, PeteDr@aol.com writes
>Dear Michael-
>Thanks for your reply. Yes, you have provided me much help in the past
>(perhaps my brother Jeff who I believe has heard from you). I believe that
>you found the landslide of Landsmen records (before I got hooked on it) on my
>grandmother's family Chana Sora CZARNOLASKI from Grajewo by looking at the
>Szczuczyn records. My mother cried when I first told her of the findings. My
>late father, an experienced genealogist himself, scrutinized the Landsman
>records carefully before he could appreciate them. I have since found many
>siblings to help fill out the family records there.
>But there seems to be some gaping large holes in what I have found on her
>husband's family (Isidore or "Yitzaak" Schneider). Much I know comes from
>recollections and family records (and some from you and alittle more I have
>found on my own).
>What follows is an abbreviated Register Report of what I know. I am trying
>not only to go back to earlier ancestors but also to find out about living
>descendants of my grandfathers siblings.
>I would certainly welcome any additional information you can provide!
OK, well I think I have something........
>
>First Generation
>
>1. Joszk (Joseph, Yussel) Sznejder "Reb". Born in Hanover-Mustelaga Lomza,
>Poland ®30. Died Before Dec 1911 in Age 96 ®31 Lomza, Poland. Buried in Lomza,
>Poland.
>
Is this Josel's death record?
Lomza:
SZNAJDER Josel 1910 D 51 son of Herszk
Pete, I am SURE this is our man. See later.........
>He married Itka Bashker (Baszka), in 2nd Wife. Died 1926/1927 in Brooklyn, NY.
>Occupation Sold Chickens.
>She emmigrated to US after death of her husband in Lomza.
>
>Info from M Tobias suggest possibility that more info on her family is
>available. Some excerpts from the E-mail of M. Tobias follow in quotes:
>"HOWEVER Landsmen Vol 5 no.1 Lomza marriages 1856-1867 apart from containing
>the previously covered marriage also contains 2 BASZKA marriages !
>(Pronounced'BASHKA').
>Act 61 in 1865 was the marriage of Herszk BASZKA to Ena Ryfka RAKOWSKI.
>Herszk was from M. STAWISKI and Ena was from LOMZA.
>Act 56 in 1865 was the marriage of Lejzor ORNOSTANSKI to Fejga BASZKA. They
>were both from LOMZA."
Looks to me like the BASZKA family came from Stawiski and Sniadowo:
From Stawiski:
BASZKA Cypa Chaia 1875 M 14 Stawiski
WIERZBOWICZ Ick Berek 1875 M 14 Stawiski
and Sniadowo:
BASZKA Abram Herszk 1876 B 12 Sniadowo
BYSZKO Benjamin 1825 M 33
KOZ*UCHOWICZ Etka 1825 M 33
BASZKA Mejer Wolf 1873 M 10 son of Abram Stawiski
ARKER Roda 1873 M 10 daughter of Dawid Sniadowo
(I know an ARKER researcher .......)
Lomza:
BASZKA Mindla Rywka 1898 D 158 daughter of Jankiel
BASZKA Zelman Jankiel 1902 D 55 son of Abram
BASZKO Moszk Mendel 1935 D 62 son of Zelman
BASZKO Sora Gitla 1938 D 103 daughter of Moszk
BYSZKO Jankiel 1936 D 95 son of Mejer
BASZKA Sachar 1890 D 377 son of Jankiel
BASZKA Basia 1890 D 380 daughter of Jankiel
BASZKA Juszk 1891 D 2 son of Jankiel
BYSZKO Izrael Lejb 1892 D 168 son of Lipa
BYSZKO Srul Chaim 1937 M 28 son of Aron
ROGONIECKA Sora 1937 M 28 daughter of Hersz Wo'lf
BASZKO Zelman Jankiel 1926 M 7 son of Zelman Jankiel
MA\CZKOWSKA Perl/a 1926 M 7 daughter of Lejba Hersz
BASKA Fejga 1926 M 27 daughter of Jankiel Zelman
BIAL/ASZEWSKI Chaim 1926 M 27 son of Herszk
Stawiski:
BASZKA Herszk 1843 B 4 son of Herszk
Please note Pete, some of these records are confidential - the records
beyond 1886 from Lomza for example. Contact me for more details.
>Maybe Herszk and/or Fejga were siblings of Itka-although Herszk and Fejga were
>from diferent towns. (Mike- I've not found anthing more on this)
>
>They had the following children:
>
This is where Josel, son of Herszk makes sense, as I know of the
following Lomza births:
> 2 i. Chaim Schneider
SZNAJDER Chaim 1884 B 412 son of Juszk Herszkowicz (ie Juszk son of
Herszk)
> 3 ii. Dora Schneider
> 4 iii. Eli Schneider
could this be Enoch?
SZNAJDER Enoch 1871 B 165 son of Juszk Herszkowicz
> 5 iv. Esther Schneider
I know of Lomza birth: SZNAJDER Estera Rywka 1888 B 360 daughter of
Joszk.
> 6 v. Sam Schneider
could this be szluma?
SZNAJDER Szluma 1884 B 411 son of Juszk Herszkowicz
> 7 vi. Isidor Schneider
SZNEJDER Ick Bendet 1877 B 80 son of Juszk Herszkowicz Ostrolenka
and could Joszk/Josel have possibly had a child just before he died???:
Lomza:
SZNAJDER Dwejra 1910 B 152 daughter of Josel
(could this be a late registration of Dora? - some births were
registered over 10 years late, sometimes just prior to the child getting
married! - they had to prove when they were born.)
WAAAAAAAA! Joszk perhaps did not marry Itka BASZKA at all!
Lomza:
SZNEJDER Juszk 1874 M 35 Piontnica
LEWITA Itka 1874 M 35 Piontnica
He married Itka LEWITA !!!!!
What is your source for the BASZKA / BASKER name? Baszka is also a
FIRST NAME. I wonder if Itka LEWITA was actually Itka Baszka LEWITA, or
perhaps Itka was a widow (as Juszk was a widower) and LEWITA / BASZKA
were her TWO surnames (one a maidenname, one a first married name - but
in which order?).
I think LEWITA was her maiden name:
Lomza:
LEWITA Itka 1854 B 3 daughter of Jdzk Szlumowicz Piontnica
(see reference note 199 -Itka/Ida's death certificate notes her birth as 1853)
Perhaps she may married a BASZKA first, or perhaps Baszka was a
givenname..............
Pete,
I have all the pre 1886 Lomza records on loan here - I'll check them on
Thursday when I visit the LDS...........
An 1874 marriage means Enoch was born from Josel's first marriage as
was:
SZNAJDER Guta 1865 B 490 Joszk Herszkowicz
who died the next year:
SZNAJDER Gutka 1866 D 125
and you know of:
SZNEJDER Joszk 1862 M 40 Ostrolenka (Openchowo)
WSTENGA Sora 1862 M 40 Ostrolenka (Openchowo)
Have you have a copy of this record?
>
>7. Isidor Schneider. Born 2 Apr 1878 in Lomza®13, Poland. Died 12 Jun 1958 in
>New York. Buried in Beth Israel Cemetary, New Brunswick NJ Ex 11 NJ Trnpk.
>Occupation Tailor. Emigration August 15, 1906 On Steamhip Barbarosa, Port Of
>New York.
>
>He married Chana Sarah Czarnolawska, daughter of Mendel Czarnolaski & Chawa
>Leah (Eva) Mirmensztejn, Mar 1906 in Grajewo ®39. Born 15 Jul 1886 in Grajewo
>(Greiva) ®12 Poland. Died 24 Jun 1969. Buried in Beth Israel Cem. N.
>Brunswick NJ (Exit 11-NJ Tpk). Emigration 2nd Emmigr:15 Aug 06 On Steamhip
>Barbarosa, Port Of New York.
>
>The records of Jewish Records Indexing - Poland (JRIP-see Jewish Gen on the
>net) list the birth of Chaja Sora CZARNOLAWSKA in 1879 with the father listed
>as Mendel, in Akt 36. Since these records are from Grajewo, they are most
>certainly those of grandma Schneider, but the dates of her birth is different.
>
Never trust dates of birth........
More CZARNOLAWSKI family from Grajewo - children of Mendel:
Grajewo:
CZARNOLASKA Chaja Masia 1894 D 18 daughter of Mendel (Chaja b.1882 #63)
CZARNOLASKA Liba Leja 1899 M 4 daughter of Mendel (Liba b.1877 #41)
LEW Mejer Herszk 1899 M 4 son of Berek Wolf
And
CZARNOLYASKI Shlioma 1874 B 29
CZARNOLASKI Abram Szloma 1877 D 18 son of Mendel
(possibly Shlioma and Abram Szloma are the same person).
>They had the following children:
>
> 20 i. Minna (Minnie) Zelda Schneider
> 21 ii. Eve Lene Schneider
> 22 iii. Jennie Schneider
> 23 iv. Joseph Schneider
> 24 v. Ruth Schneider
Could they have had a child Bejla before they left Poland?
Lomza:
SZNAJDER Bejl/a 1906 B 124 daughter of Ick
Regards,
--
Michael
regarding a notice I posted in Jewishgen
From: Michael Tobias <Michael@mtobias.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: jewishgen digest: February 21, 1999
In message <f50e9d1e.36d1e468@aol.com>, PeteDr@aol.com writes
>Dear Michael-
>Thanks for your reply. Yes, you have provided me much help in the past
>(perhaps my brother Jeff who I believe has heard from you). I believe that
>you found the landslide of Landsmen records (before I got hooked on it) on my
>grandmother's family Chana Sora CZARNOLASKI from Grajewo by looking at the
>Szczuczyn records. My mother cried when I first told her of the findings. My
>late father, an experienced genealogist himself, scrutinized the Landsman
>records carefully before he could appreciate them. I have since found many
>siblings to help fill out the family records there.
>But there seems to be some gaping large holes in what I have found on her
>husband's family (Isidore or "Yitzaak" Schneider). Much I know comes from
>recollections and family records (and some from you and alittle more I have
>found on my own).
>What follows is an abbreviated Register Report of what I know. I am trying
>not only to go back to earlier ancestors but also to find out about living
>descendants of my grandfathers siblings.
>I would certainly welcome any additional information you can provide!
OK, well I think I have something........
>
>First Generation
>
>1. Joszk (Joseph, Yussel) Sznejder "Reb". Born in Hanover-Mustelaga Lomza,
>Poland ®30. Died Before Dec 1911 in Age 96 ®31 Lomza, Poland. Buried in Lomza,
>Poland.
>
Is this Josel's death record?
Lomza:
SZNAJDER Josel 1910 D 51 son of Herszk
Pete, I am SURE this is our man. See later.........
>He married Itka Bashker (Baszka), in 2nd Wife. Died 1926/1927 in Brooklyn, NY.
>Occupation Sold Chickens.
>She emmigrated to US after death of her husband in Lomza.
>
>Info from M Tobias suggest possibility that more info on her family is
>available. Some excerpts from the E-mail of M. Tobias follow in quotes:
>"HOWEVER Landsmen Vol 5 no.1 Lomza marriages 1856-1867 apart from containing
>the previously covered marriage also contains 2 BASZKA marriages !
>(Pronounced'BASHKA').
>Act 61 in 1865 was the marriage of Herszk BASZKA to Ena Ryfka RAKOWSKI.
>Herszk was from M. STAWISKI and Ena was from LOMZA.
>Act 56 in 1865 was the marriage of Lejzor ORNOSTANSKI to Fejga BASZKA. They
>were both from LOMZA."
Looks to me like the BASZKA family came from Stawiski and Sniadowo:
From Stawiski:
BASZKA Cypa Chaia 1875 M 14 Stawiski
WIERZBOWICZ Ick Berek 1875 M 14 Stawiski
and Sniadowo:
BASZKA Abram Herszk 1876 B 12 Sniadowo
BYSZKO Benjamin 1825 M 33
KOZ*UCHOWICZ Etka 1825 M 33
BASZKA Mejer Wolf 1873 M 10 son of Abram Stawiski
ARKER Roda 1873 M 10 daughter of Dawid Sniadowo
(I know an ARKER researcher .......)
Lomza:
BASZKA Mindla Rywka 1898 D 158 daughter of Jankiel
BASZKA Zelman Jankiel 1902 D 55 son of Abram
BASZKO Moszk Mendel 1935 D 62 son of Zelman
BASZKO Sora Gitla 1938 D 103 daughter of Moszk
BYSZKO Jankiel 1936 D 95 son of Mejer
BASZKA Sachar 1890 D 377 son of Jankiel
BASZKA Basia 1890 D 380 daughter of Jankiel
BASZKA Juszk 1891 D 2 son of Jankiel
BYSZKO Izrael Lejb 1892 D 168 son of Lipa
BYSZKO Srul Chaim 1937 M 28 son of Aron
ROGONIECKA Sora 1937 M 28 daughter of Hersz Wo'lf
BASZKO Zelman Jankiel 1926 M 7 son of Zelman Jankiel
MA\CZKOWSKA Perl/a 1926 M 7 daughter of Lejba Hersz
BASKA Fejga 1926 M 27 daughter of Jankiel Zelman
BIAL/ASZEWSKI Chaim 1926 M 27 son of Herszk
Stawiski:
BASZKA Herszk 1843 B 4 son of Herszk
Please note Pete, some of these records are confidential - the records
beyond 1886 from Lomza for example. Contact me for more details.
>Maybe Herszk and/or Fejga were siblings of Itka-although Herszk and Fejga were
>from diferent towns. (Mike- I've not found anthing more on this)
>
>They had the following children:
>
This is where Josel, son of Herszk makes sense, as I know of the
following Lomza births:
> 2 i. Chaim Schneider
SZNAJDER Chaim 1884 B 412 son of Juszk Herszkowicz (ie Juszk son of
Herszk)
> 3 ii. Dora Schneider
> 4 iii. Eli Schneider
could this be Enoch?
SZNAJDER Enoch 1871 B 165 son of Juszk Herszkowicz
> 5 iv. Esther Schneider
I know of Lomza birth: SZNAJDER Estera Rywka 1888 B 360 daughter of
Joszk.
> 6 v. Sam Schneider
could this be szluma?
SZNAJDER Szluma 1884 B 411 son of Juszk Herszkowicz
> 7 vi. Isidor Schneider
SZNEJDER Ick Bendet 1877 B 80 son of Juszk Herszkowicz Ostrolenka
and could Joszk/Josel have possibly had a child just before he died???:
Lomza:
SZNAJDER Dwejra 1910 B 152 daughter of Josel
(could this be a late registration of Dora? - some births were
registered over 10 years late, sometimes just prior to the child getting
married! - they had to prove when they were born.)
WAAAAAAAA! Joszk perhaps did not marry Itka BASZKA at all!
Lomza:
SZNEJDER Juszk 1874 M 35 Piontnica
LEWITA Itka 1874 M 35 Piontnica
He married Itka LEWITA !!!!!
What is your source for the BASZKA / BASKER name? Baszka is also a
FIRST NAME. I wonder if Itka LEWITA was actually Itka Baszka LEWITA, or
perhaps Itka was a widow (as Juszk was a widower) and LEWITA / BASZKA
were her TWO surnames (one a maidenname, one a first married name - but
in which order?).
I think LEWITA was her maiden name:
Lomza:
LEWITA Itka 1854 B 3 daughter of Jdzk Szlumowicz Piontnica
(see reference note 199 -Itka/Ida's death certificate notes her birth as 1853)
Perhaps she may married a BASZKA first, or perhaps Baszka was a
givenname..............
Pete,
I have all the pre 1886 Lomza records on loan here - I'll check them on
Thursday when I visit the LDS...........
An 1874 marriage means Enoch was born from Josel's first marriage as
was:
SZNAJDER Guta 1865 B 490 Joszk Herszkowicz
who died the next year:
SZNAJDER Gutka 1866 D 125
and you know of:
SZNEJDER Joszk 1862 M 40 Ostrolenka (Openchowo)
WSTENGA Sora 1862 M 40 Ostrolenka (Openchowo)
Have you have a copy of this record?
>
>7. Isidor Schneider. Born 2 Apr 1878 in Lomza®13, Poland. Died 12 Jun 1958 in
>New York. Buried in Beth Israel Cemetary, New Brunswick NJ Ex 11 NJ Trnpk.
>Occupation Tailor. Emigration August 15, 1906 On Steamhip Barbarosa, Port Of
>New York.
>
>He married Chana Sarah Czarnolawska, daughter of Mendel Czarnolaski & Chawa
>Leah (Eva) Mirmensztejn, Mar 1906 in Grajewo ®39. Born 15 Jul 1886 in Grajewo
>(Greiva) ®12 Poland. Died 24 Jun 1969. Buried in Beth Israel Cem. N.
>Brunswick NJ (Exit 11-NJ Tpk). Emigration 2nd Emmigr:15 Aug 06 On Steamhip
>Barbarosa, Port Of New York.
>
>The records of Jewish Records Indexing - Poland (JRIP-see Jewish Gen on the
>net) list the birth of Chaja Sora CZARNOLAWSKA in 1879 with the father listed
>as Mendel, in Akt 36. Since these records are from Grajewo, they are most
>certainly those of grandma Schneider, but the dates of her birth is different.
>
Never trust dates of birth........
More CZARNOLAWSKI family from Grajewo - children of Mendel:
Grajewo:
CZARNOLASKA Chaja Masia 1894 D 18 daughter of Mendel (Chaja b.1882 #63)
CZARNOLASKA Liba Leja 1899 M 4 daughter of Mendel (Liba b.1877 #41)
LEW Mejer Herszk 1899 M 4 son of Berek Wolf
And
CZARNOLYASKI Shlioma 1874 B 29
CZARNOLASKI Abram Szloma 1877 D 18 son of Mendel
(possibly Shlioma and Abram Szloma are the same person).
>They had the following children:
>
> 20 i. Minna (Minnie) Zelda Schneider
> 21 ii. Eve Lene Schneider
> 22 iii. Jennie Schneider
> 23 iv. Joseph Schneider
> 24 v. Ruth Schneider
Could they have had a child Bejla before they left Poland?
Lomza:
SZNAJDER Bejl/a 1906 B 124 daughter of Ick
Regards,
--
Michael
34. As far as the 2 Apr 1878 birthday is the day the family celebrated as his birthday .
JRIP birthday is 1877 ®137.
JRIP birthday is 1877 ®137.
35. Sailing from Bremen Aug 4 and arriving Aug 15, 1906 were:
Izrok Age 28
Chane Age 20 by condition of health is written Pgt (pregnant)
both from Lomza
calling or occupation was written over and can’t be read reliably
Going to join -- something Houcka? - a Br in law in Sufolk NY
Izrok Age 28
Chane Age 20 by condition of health is written Pgt (pregnant)
both from Lomza
calling or occupation was written over and can’t be read reliably
Going to join -- something Houcka? - a Br in law in Sufolk NY
36. “1897 Lomza Census,” Lomza District, 1897, Index, Jewish Records Indexing Poland, 28 Mar 2008.
See attached jpg file
File: Lomza1897
See attached jpg file
File: Lomza1897
37. “Marriage Record obtained via JRI-P,” December 2006.
Translation from the Russian via Dr. Josef Ash
j_ash@bezeqint.net
"Happened in the town Lomzh on Sept, 7(20) 1904 at 8 pm.
We inform, that in presence of witnesses, living in Lomzh:
Abram David SHEINKEN, 52, schoolboy and Barukh Meer SHEINKEN, 42, dealer was made on this day the religious conjugal union between Itsko Bendet SHNEIDER bachelor, 27, son of Yonik Gershkovich (son of Gershko – j.a.) and Itka Itskovna Bendetovna (daughter of Itsko Bendet – j.a.) nee LEVITA, the SHNEIDERs who lives and was born in Lomzh, and Braina-Tauba ROZENTAL unmarried, 27, the daughter of Shlomo Eliash ABRAMOVICH and Feiga Lea Gdaliovna, the ROZENTALs who lives in Lomzh and was born here as well.
This marriage was preceded by three announcements in the synagogue on Aug, 21 and 28 and on Sept 4.
The new-married declare that any marriage contract had not been signed.
The religious marriage was made by the Lomzh Rabbi Girsh TENENBAUM
This certificate was read and signed by us and the witnesses.
The new-married are illiteral
The signatures"
Good luck,
Dr.Josef Ash
also Dave Price sent the following translation:
marriage of Icek Bendet SZNEJDER, age 27, son of Joszek Herszkowicz and Itka Ickow Bendetow LEWIT to Brajna Tauba ROZENTAL, 27, daughter of Szlama Eliasz Abramowicz and Fejga Lei Gdaliow both of Lomzha
dprice@sympatico.ca
Translation from the Russian via Dr. Josef Ash
j_ash@bezeqint.net
"Happened in the town Lomzh on Sept, 7(20) 1904 at 8 pm.
We inform, that in presence of witnesses, living in Lomzh:
Abram David SHEINKEN, 52, schoolboy and Barukh Meer SHEINKEN, 42, dealer was made on this day the religious conjugal union between Itsko Bendet SHNEIDER bachelor, 27, son of Yonik Gershkovich (son of Gershko – j.a.) and Itka Itskovna Bendetovna (daughter of Itsko Bendet – j.a.) nee LEVITA, the SHNEIDERs who lives and was born in Lomzh, and Braina-Tauba ROZENTAL unmarried, 27, the daughter of Shlomo Eliash ABRAMOVICH and Feiga Lea Gdaliovna, the ROZENTALs who lives in Lomzh and was born here as well.
This marriage was preceded by three announcements in the synagogue on Aug, 21 and 28 and on Sept 4.
The new-married declare that any marriage contract had not been signed.
The religious marriage was made by the Lomzh Rabbi Girsh TENENBAUM
This certificate was read and signed by us and the witnesses.
The new-married are illiteral
The signatures"
Good luck,
Dr.Josef Ash
also Dave Price sent the following translation:
marriage of Icek Bendet SZNEJDER, age 27, son of Joszek Herszkowicz and Itka Ickow Bendetow LEWIT to Brajna Tauba ROZENTAL, 27, daughter of Szlama Eliasz Abramowicz and Fejga Lei Gdaliow both of Lomzha
dprice@sympatico.ca
38. “1897 Lomza Census.”
File: Rozental1897
File: Rozental1897
39. JewishGen, “JRIP.”
File: BrjnaTaubadeath
File: BrjnaTaubadeath
40. Holocaust Memorial Museum has Yitzkors on Grajewo and Lomza. The Yitzkor on Grajewo said that at beginning of Nazi regime, Grajewo was a community of 10,000 people, most of which were jewish. (However, "Where Once We Walked" lists the jewish population of the Shtetl, Grajewo, as 2,834. Most of the numbersfrom WOWW were derived from the "Black Book of Localities Whose Jewish Population Was Exterminated by the Nazis", published by Yad Vashem in Jerusalem. Many of the Black Book figures were based on the 1921 Poland Census which were revised upward to reflect the fact that many jews had not yet returned to the former home after the concluion of WWI.)
In 1795 Grajewo had became part of Czarist Russia when the railroad was strengthened in the town. Therefore many jews there who were in business travelled throughout Europe. Others that could not, were not isolated and Grajewo, until 1914 (WW I), had an economic atmosphere that was quite good for the jews there.
The book was published by the United Grayever Relief Committee, Irving Shapirstein, Sec'y,1655 Monroe Ave, Bronx, NY
In 1795 Grajewo had became part of Czarist Russia when the railroad was strengthened in the town. Therefore many jews there who were in business travelled throughout Europe. Others that could not, were not isolated and Grajewo, until 1914 (WW I), had an economic atmosphere that was quite good for the jews there.
The book was published by the United Grayever Relief Committee, Irving Shapirstein, Sec'y,1655 Monroe Ave, Bronx, NY
41. Jeff found this record.
Sailing from Rotterdam on the SS Rotterdam, 14 year old Chane Sore Charmelewsky (XXane is obliterated and Sore is what I think they wrote), from Grajewo with no occupation came to live in Syracuse, NY with her uncle S. or L. xxxi fos?- XXlmond Sr? Syracuse NY
on line 22
Sailing from Rotterdam on the SS Rotterdam, 14 year old Chane Sore Charmelewsky (XXane is obliterated and Sore is what I think they wrote), from Grajewo with no occupation came to live in Syracuse, NY with her uncle S. or L. xxxi fos?- XXlmond Sr? Syracuse NY
on line 22
42. Note that Isidore and Chana Sarah were married in Poland before coming to US. Chana Sarah had been to US without Isidore, but returned to her homeland when her father died, met Isidore and married him on the condition that he would emmigrate to the US with her.
44. “Obituary Endy Levine.”
File: Obituary Wendy Estelle Levine
File: Obituary Wendy Estelle Levine
45. I obtained records from FHC on Microfilm 1755295 p44 vol. 8149
line 7 Zachat (Yetta) age 26 occupation dressm(aker) b. Zwolen 5 ft 3inches.
line 8 Ryfka (Jean) age 6 b. Warsaw
line 9 Zysta (Sophie) age 5 b. Warsaw
line 10 Helene (Helen) age1 b. Berlin
Record for Yetta indicates that she plans to join her husband, David Walter of 111 George Street, New York. Most likely this should be Goerck St which is now Baruch Pl. There is no George St. ( Mom and dad G. recalled that they later moved to 79 Lewis Street).
the records further indicated that immigration visas were all obtain Aug 30 in Berlin. The visa numbers were 586(Yetta), 587 (Jean), 588 (Sophie) and 589 (Helen).
About the ship S.S. Mongolia-
RIMUTAKA (3) was a 16,576 gross ton ship, built by Armstrong Whitworth, Newcastle in 1923 as the "Mongolia" for the Peninsular & Oriental Steam Nav. Co (P&O Line). This was a twin screw, 16 knot steamer, one funnel, two masts, with accommodation for 840-tourist class passengers. Becoming surplus to P&O's requirements, she transferred under long term charter to NZSCo in 1938, was renamed "Rimutaka" and started London - Panama - Auckland - Wellington sailings on 8/12/1938. Her last sailing on this route commenced 11/10/1949 and in February 1950 she was sold to Cia de Nav.Ingres, Panama and renamed "Europa". Transferred to Liberian registry in 1952 and renamed "Nassau" and in 1961 was sold to Nav.Turisticana Mexicana, Mexico, renamed "Acapulco" and used as a cruise ship. She was eventually scrapped in Japan in 1964. [North Star to Southern Cross by John M.Maber] - [Posted to The ShipsList by Ted Finch - 2 June 1998]
line 7 Zachat (Yetta) age 26 occupation dressm(aker) b. Zwolen 5 ft 3inches.
line 8 Ryfka (Jean) age 6 b. Warsaw
line 9 Zysta (Sophie) age 5 b. Warsaw
line 10 Helene (Helen) age1 b. Berlin
Record for Yetta indicates that she plans to join her husband, David Walter of 111 George Street, New York. Most likely this should be Goerck St which is now Baruch Pl. There is no George St. ( Mom and dad G. recalled that they later moved to 79 Lewis Street).
the records further indicated that immigration visas were all obtain Aug 30 in Berlin. The visa numbers were 586(Yetta), 587 (Jean), 588 (Sophie) and 589 (Helen).
About the ship S.S. Mongolia-
RIMUTAKA (3) was a 16,576 gross ton ship, built by Armstrong Whitworth, Newcastle in 1923 as the "Mongolia" for the Peninsular & Oriental Steam Nav. Co (P&O Line). This was a twin screw, 16 knot steamer, one funnel, two masts, with accommodation for 840-tourist class passengers. Becoming surplus to P&O's requirements, she transferred under long term charter to NZSCo in 1938, was renamed "Rimutaka" and started London - Panama - Auckland - Wellington sailings on 8/12/1938. Her last sailing on this route commenced 11/10/1949 and in February 1950 she was sold to Cia de Nav.Ingres, Panama and renamed "Europa". Transferred to Liberian registry in 1952 and renamed "Nassau" and in 1961 was sold to Nav.Turisticana Mexicana, Mexico, renamed "Acapulco" and used as a cruise ship. She was eventually scrapped in Japan in 1964. [North Star to Southern Cross by John M.Maber] - [Posted to The ShipsList by Ted Finch - 2 June 1998]
46. Printed Yahrzet records found in Sid Garfinkel’s study after his death.
1 for Dov Ber B”R Shlomo 11 Shvat. This is his father Benjamin- I often heard Sid refer to his father’s name as Dov Ber.
The second is for Railey B”R Shmuel 4 Iver
1 for Dov Ber B”R Shlomo 11 Shvat. This is his father Benjamin- I often heard Sid refer to his father’s name as Dov Ber.
The second is for Railey B”R Shmuel 4 Iver
47. Dad (Sid) said his father, Benjamin, was born in Rozwadow, but I have few if any records to support this. Ellis Island records (online) record found on Nov 18, 2001 of "Berioch Garfinkel" age 38, coming over on the "Blucher" departing from Hamburg, Germany on Dec 30, 1911 and arriving January 9, 1912. Occupation: "Joiner". Place of Residence was Mielec, Austria. Nearest relative was wife Beila or Reila Garfinkel and final destination was NY, NY.
It says he wa goiner to join his brother in law "Adolph Hamburger" at New York, Coomers?, NY and that he was born in Austria at Mielec.
It says he wa goiner to join his brother in law "Adolph Hamburger" at New York, Coomers?, NY and that he was born in Austria at Mielec.
48. World War I Draft Registration Card found - date appears to be Sept 12, 1918 Name is Bennie Garfinkel 121 Ave C NY
Born July 4, 1873
Bennie was a Carpenter High Grade Furniture at “10 St. Cst Av B&C”?
Wife’s name was Rosie Garfinkel
Born July 4, 1873
Bennie was a Carpenter High Grade Furniture at “10 St. Cst Av B&C”?
Wife’s name was Rosie Garfinkel
49. “Benjamin Garfinkel- in the New York, New York, Death Index, 1862-1948.”
Name:
Benjamin Garfinkel
Birth Year:
abt 1874
Age:
64
Death Date:
13 Jan 1938
Death Place:
Kings, New York, USA
Certificate Number:
1073
Name:
Benjamin Garfinkel
Birth Year:
abt 1874
Age:
64
Death Date:
13 Jan 1938
Death Place:
Kings, New York, USA
Certificate Number:
1073
50.
Benjamin Garfinkel in theNew York, New York, U.S., Index to Death Certificates, 1862-1948
Record details
Name
Benjamin Garfinkel
Gender
Male
Race
White
Marital Status
Married
Age
40
Birth Date
1873
Birth Place
Austria
Residence Street Address
2049-63Rd St
Residence Place
New York
Years in US
28
Death Date
13 Jan 1938
Death Street Address
50 Greene Ave Brooklyn N Y
Hospital
Adelphi Hospital
Death Place
New York City, Brooklyn, New York, USA
Cause of Death
Hypertrophic Of Prostate, Chetero Pyonephoesis, Chronic Homenelo - Hybutis
Burial Date
14 Jan 1938
Burial Place
MN Sehan Cemetery
Occupation
Carpenter, Own Business
Father's Birth Place
Austria
Mother's Birth Place
Austria
Benjamin Garfinkel in theNew York, New York, U.S., Index to Death Certificates, 1862-1948
Record details
Name
Benjamin Garfinkel
Gender
Male
Race
White
Marital Status
Married
Age
40
Birth Date
1873
Birth Place
Austria
Residence Street Address
2049-63Rd St
Residence Place
New York
Years in US
28
Death Date
13 Jan 1938
Death Street Address
50 Greene Ave Brooklyn N Y
Hospital
Adelphi Hospital
Death Place
New York City, Brooklyn, New York, USA
Cause of Death
Hypertrophic Of Prostate, Chetero Pyonephoesis, Chronic Homenelo - Hybutis
Burial Date
14 Jan 1938
Burial Place
MN Sehan Cemetery
Occupation
Carpenter, Own Business
Father's Birth Place
Austria
Mother's Birth Place
Austria